National Labor Relations Board v. MacY's Inc.

FOR PUBLICATION UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT INTERNATIONAL UNION OF No. 23-124 OPERATING ENGINEERS, NLRB No. STATIONARY ENGINEERS, 20-CA-270047 LOCAL 39, ORDER AND Petitioner, AMENDED v. OPINION NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD, Respondent, ---------------------------------------- MACY’S INC., Intervenor. MACY’S INC., No. 23-150 NLRB No. Petitioner, 20-CA-270047 v. NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD, 2 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB Respondent, ---------------------------------------- INTERNATIONAL UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS, STATIONARY ENGINEERS, LOCAL 39, Intervenor. NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS No. 23-188 BOARD, NLRB No. 20-CA-270047 Petitioner, v. MACY’S INC., Respondent, ---------------------------------------- INTERNATIONAL UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS, STATIONARY ENGINEERS, LOCAL 39, Intervenor.  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 3 On Petition for Review of an Order of the National Labor Relations Board Argued and Submitted March 28, 2024 San Francisco, California Filed January 21, 2025 Amended October 20, 2025 Before: Evan J. Wallach, * Jacqueline H. Nguyen, and Patrick J. Bumatay, Circuit Judges. Order; Opinion by Judge Wallach; Partial Dissent by Judge Bumatay; Dissent from Order by Judge R. Nelson SUMMARY ** Labor Law The panel filed (1) an order denying a petition for rehearing en banc and amending the opinion and partial dissent filed on January 21, 2025; and (2) an amended opinion and an amended partial dissent denying petitions for review brought by the International Union of Operating * The Honorable Evan J. Wallach, United States Circuit Judge for the Federal Circuit, sitting by designation. ** This summary constitutes no part of the opinion of the court. It has been prepared by court staff for the convenience of the reader. 4 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB Engineers, Stationary Engineers, Local 39 (the “Union”) and Macy’s Inc., and granting the National Labor Relations Board’s cross-application for enforcement of its final order in a case in which the Union charged Macy’s with unfair labor practices under the National Labor Relations Act (“NLRA”). During negotiations over a successor collective bargaining agreement, Union members voted to reject Macy’s Final Offer and began a strike. After three months, the Union ended its strike and unconditionally offered to return to work. Macy’s locked out the Union members who reported for work. The Union charged that Macy’s lockout was an unfair labor practice. The Board adopted the conclusion of the ALJ, and found that Macy’s violated the NLRA. In the amended opinion, the panel held that it had jurisdiction because the Union is a “person aggrieved.” The panel rejected Macy’s contention that it could lawfully lock out the employees under Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of the NLRA because it could not show legitimate and substantial business justifications for the lockout. The Board applied the correct legal standard when it considered Dayton Newspapers, Inc., 339 N.L.R.B. 650 (2003). Reviewing the record as a whole, the panel found substantial evidence supporting the Board’s conclusion that Union employees were not clearly and fully informed of conditions they needed to satisfy to be reinstated. Considering Dayton Newspapers, the panel concluded that the lockout was not justified. Finding no clear abuse of discretion, the panel enforced the Board’s remedial order. The Board did not abuse its discretion in declining to award additional extraordinary  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 5 remedies, requested by the Union, because the traditional remedies awarded were sufficient to effectuate the policies of the NLRA here. Rejecting Macy’s challenges, the panel held that the Board did not clearly abuse its discretion in ordering make-whole relief pursuant to Thryv, Inc., 372 N.L.R.B. No. 22 (Dec. 13. 2022). The panel agreed with the partial dissent that the Board was not authorized to award “consequential damages,” but the Board did not award such damages here. The panel concluded that the Board’s invocation of Thryy’s make-whole relief framework in this case vindicated a public right. The panel noted that its amendments merely reiterated that it was unable to permit or prohibit any specific forms of relief at this stage. Such determinations must await the forthcoming compliance proceeding, where Macy’s can raise the arguments the dissent urges the panel to consider now. In the amended partial dissent, Judge Bumatay would hold that the Board had no authority to order the type of monetary relief it did, requiring Macy’s to compensate Union members for direct or foreseeable pecuniary harms incurred as a result of the unlawful lockout, and for ongoing harms accumulating to this day—more than four years since the lockout. Blessing the Board’s authority to impose these remedies would implicate the Seventh Amendment’s right to a jury trial. The Board’s actions were arbitrary and capricious and unsupported by the record. While he agreed with the denial of the Union’s petition for review, he dissented from the denial of Macy’s petition for review and from the grant of the Board’s application for enforcement. Dissenting from the denial of rehearing en banc, Judge R. Nelson, joined by Judges Callahan, Ikuta, Lee, Bumatay, and VanDyke, wrote that this case should be reheard en banc because the majority erred in affirming the NLRB’s 6 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB unprecedented award of consequential Thryy damages, which are unauthorized by statute and forbidden by the Seventh Amendment right to a jury trial. COUNSEL David A. Rosenfeld (argued), Gary P. Provencher, Bruce A. Harland, and Sara J. Zollner, Weinberg Roger & Rosenfeld, Emeryville, California, for Petitioner. Barbara A. Sheehy (argued), Attorney; Usha Dheenan, Supervisory Attorney; David Habenstreit and Meredith Jason, Assistant General Counsel; Ruth E. Burdick, Deputy Associate General Counsel; Peter S. Ohr, Associate General Counsel; Stephanie Cahn, Acting Deputy General Counsel; William B. Cowen, Acting General Counsel; Jennifer A. Abruzzo, General Counsel; National Labor Relations Board, Washington, D.C.; for Respondent. M. Christopher Moon (argued), Jackson Lewis PC, Salt Lake City, Utah; Dylan B. Carp and Laura A. Pierson- Scheinberg, Jackson Lewis PC, San Francisco, California; Daniel D. Schudroff, Jackson Lewis PC, New York, New York; Paul D. Clement, Matthew D. Rowen, and Kyle R. Eiswald, Clement & Murphy PLLC, Alexandria, Virginia; for Intervenor. Jordan L. Von Bokern and Maria C. Monaghan, U.S. Chamber Litigation Center, Washington, D.C.; Michael E. Kenneally, Morgan Lewis & Bockius LLP, Washington, D.C.; for Amici Curiae the Chamber of Commerce of the United States of America, Coalition for a Democratic Workplace, and National Retail Federation.  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 7 ORDER The opinion and partial dissent filed on January 21, 2025 (Dkt. No. 93), and reported at 127 F.4th 58, are amended. The amended opinion and partial dissent will be filed concurrently with this Order. Judge Nguyen voted to deny the petition for rehearing en banc and Judge Wallach so recommended. Judge Bumatay voted to grant the petition for rehearing en banc. The full court was advised of the petition for rehearing en banc. A judge requested a vote on whether to rehear the matter en banc. The matter failed to receive a majority of the votes of the nonrecused active judges in favor of en banc consideration. Fed. R. App. P. 40. The petition for rehearing en banc (Dkt. No. 102) is DENIED, and no further petitions for rehearing will be entertained in these cases. OPINION WALLACH, Circuit Judge: When engaging in “collective bargaining” under the National Labor Relations Act (“NLRA” or the “Act”), “representatives of an employer and a union attempt to reach an agreement by negotiation, and, failing agreement, are free to settle their differences by resort to such economic weapons as strikes and lockouts, without any compulsion to reach agreement.” NLRB v. Amax Coal Co., 453 U.S. 322, 336 (1981) (emphasis added) (citations omitted); see also 8 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 29 U.S.C. § 158(a), (d) (listing certain prohibited unfair labor practices by an employer and imposing an obligation for collective bargaining). During negotiations over a successor collective bargaining agreement (“CBA”), communications between Macy’s Inc. (“Macy’s” or the “Company”) and the International Union of Operating Engineers, Stationary Engineers, Local 39 (the “Union”) set off a chain reaction. The Union members voted to reject the Company’s last, best, and final offer (the “Final Offer”) and began a strike. After the Final Offer expired, the Union offered its proposal on wages and pensions, which Macy’s then rejected. After three months, the Union ended its strike and unconditionally offered to return to work. Three days later, Macy’s locked out the Union members who reported for work. The Union filed its Charge Against Employer (“Charge”) with the National Labor Relations Board (“NLRB” or the “Board”), alleging that the Company’s lockout was an unfair labor practice under the NLRA. An Administrative Law Judge (“ALJ”) ultimately ruled in the Union’s favor. The Board adopted the conclusion of the ALJ, who found that Macy’s violated Section 8(a)(1) and (3) 1 of the Act, 1 Under Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of the NLRA: It shall be an unfair labor practice for an employer— (1) to interfere with, restrain, or coerce employees in the exercise of the rights guaranteed in section 157 of this title; ***  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 9 29 U.S.C. § 158(a)(1), (3), when on December 7, 2020, Macy’s locked out its employees without presenting a timely, clear, and complete offer that set forth the conditions necessary to avoid a lockout. Macy’s, Inc., 372 N.L.R.B. No. 42 (Jan. 17, 2023) (“Decision and Order”). The Board amended the ALJ’s recommended Order with respect to remedial provisions, modifying the “make-whole remedy” to include direct or foreseeable pecuniary harms incurred due to the lockout. Before us are three prayers for relief: (1) the Union petitions for remand for the Board to reconsider its requested additional remedies; (2) Macy’s petitions for dismissal of the Union’s petition and transfer of the proceedings elsewhere, or alternatively, either remand or reversal on the merits in its favor; and (3) the Board applies for enforcement of its final Order. We have jurisdiction under 29 U.S.C. § 160(e)–(f). We deny the Union’s and the Company’s Petitions for Review and grant the Board’s Cross-Application for Enforcement. (3) by discrimination in regard to hire or tenure of employment or any term or condition of employment to encourage or discourage membership in any labor organization . . . . 29 U.S.C. § 158(a)(1), (3); see also Metro. Edison Co. v. NLRB, 460 U.S. 693, 698 n.4 (1983) (“[A] violation of § 8(a)(3) constitutes a derivative violation of § 8(a)(1).” (citations omitted)). 10 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB I. FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND 2 Macy’s is a retail business with more than 700 stores and 75,000 employees nationwide. The Union represents building engineers and craftsmen who perform carpentry, painting, as well as maintenance and repair work, especially on heating, ventilation, and air conditioning (HVAC) and electrical systems, at two Macy’s stores in Reno, Nevada, and approximately forty other stores across Northern California and the San Francisco Bay Area. On April 1, 2020, Macy’s laid off about sixty Union engineers, after closing its stores and furloughing most of its employees in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Later that year, Macy’s started to reopen its stores, and by mid-August, it recalled forty-three Union engineers back to work. For over twenty years, Macy’s and the Union maintained a collective-bargaining relationship. In July 2020, Macy’s and the Union began bargaining for a successor CBA since the CBA then in place, covering between sixty to seventy Union employees, was set to expire on August 31, 2020. After nearly a dozen bargaining sessions, they had yet to reach an agreement. On August 31, 2020—the day the CBA would expire—Macy’s presented its Final Offer proposing terms relating to wages and pensions. On September 2, 2020, the Union members overwhelmingly voted to reject the Final Offer and the Union decided it would begin its strike in two days. From September 4, 2020, to December 4, 2020, the Union staged its strike, picketing every day 2 Only the factual assertions pertinent to resolving the matter before us are presented here, and they are primarily drawn from the findings within the April 6, 2022 ALJ’s Decision (“ALJ’s Decision”), which the Board affirmed in its January 17, 2023 Decision and Order.  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 11 during business hours at Macy’s Union Square store in San Francisco. Macy’s argued before the ALJ that during the strike, the Union employees engaged in a variety of misconduct and sabotage. On October 8, 2020, Rose Ashmore (“Ashmore”), the Company’s lead negotiator, told Jay Vega (“Vega”), the Union’s lead negotiator, over the phone that the Final Offer would expire in a week; Ashmore confirmed this once more in an email to Vega four days later. On October 15, 2020, the Final Offer expired. Vega called Ashmore on November 9, 2020, and asked if Macy’s would present another offer. Ashmore said no, but asked whether the Union would like to resume bargaining; Vega said he would get back to her. On November 25, 2020, the day before Thanksgiving, Vega sent an email to Ashmore including the Union’s proposal on wages and pensions. Ashmore replied to Vega over text, notifying her receipt of the email and her inability to speak with her team at Macy’s about the offer until after the holiday. On December 4, 2020, Ashmore emailed Vega rejecting the Union’s wage proposal. That same day, Vega replied that the Union no longer wished the dispute to continue, so it was making “an unconditional offer to return our members to work immediately.” After Vega sent this email, the Union ended its strike and stopped picketing. Later that evening, Ashmore replied to Vega, stating that she would respond to the Union’s unconditional offer by the end of business on Monday, December 7, 2020, because she needed to discuss the offer “with all necessary partners.” In the reply, Ashmore told Vega “please do not have the members report to work yet.” Vega asked her over email, “[d]oes this mean you are locking them out till Monday?” On December 5, 2020, Ashmore answered that Macy’s would need to fully 12 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB evaluate “several administrative, logistical, and economic issues” implicated by the Union’s “unexpected offer,” and requested “the courtesy of giving us until the close of business Monday to assess.” On December 6, 2020, Vega responded that “[u]nfortunately, we cannot accommodate your request. Unless you are locking them out, they will [be] showing up to work Monday morning.” Ashmore replied, repeating that “the team should not return to work on Monday,” as well as stating that “[t]his is not a lockout but we won’t be ready for them.” On Monday, December 7, 2020, some Union engineers started returning to work but were turned away. That same day, Ashmore emailed Vega, asserting “[w]e are not willing to reinstate bargaining [Union] employees until there is an agreement in place; this decision is being made in support of our bargaining position.” On December 10, 2020, Macy’s and the Union engaged in subsequent negotiations. Ashmore emailed Vega the Company’s new bargaining proposal, which includes wage increases that were reduced from those within the Final Offer. The Union countered with an offer to cap wages at the rates originally proposed in the Final Offer. No deal was made. The next day, Macy’s presented another proposal, which was still worse than the Final Offer. The Union gave its additional proposal, deleting certain provisions from the contract. Once again, Macy’s and the Union failed to reach an agreement. On December 9, 2020, and February 4, 2021, the Union respectively filed its original and first amended Charge forms with the NLRB, alleging that Macy’s committed an unfair labor practice by locking out the Union engineers after they gave their unconditional offer to return to work. On  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 13 February 11, 2021, the NLRB issued its Complaint and Notice of Hearing (“Complaint”), which alleges that Macy’s violated Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of the Act. In June 2021, the ALJ conducted a six-day hearing, and at that time, Macy’s and the Union “had still not reached an agreement on a new contract, and [the Company’s] lockout of the engineers continued.” In the ALJ’s Decision issued on April 6, 2022, the ALJ concluded that Macy’s violated Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of the NLRA, “[b]y locking out its employees on December 7, 2020, without providing them with a timely, clear, or complete offer, which sets forth the conditions necessary to avoid the lockout[.]” The ALJ recommended that Macy’s “offer reinstatement to all employees who were unlawfully locked out and make them whole for any losses of pay and benefits that they may have suffered by reason of the lockout,” including “search-for-work and interim employment expenses, regardless of whether those expenses exceed interim earnings.” With respect to the ALJ’s Decision, Macy’s filed its Exceptions and the Union filed its Cross-Exceptions. On January 17, 2023, the Board in its Decision and Order affirmed the ALJ’s rulings, findings, and conclusions, and adopted the ALJ’s recommended Order, making two modifications. The Board modified the ALJ’s recommended Order, first, “to conform to the violations found and to the Board’s standard remedial language, and in accordance with” prior NLRB decisions, and second, to amend the “make-whole remedy” to provide that Macy’s “shall also compensate the employees for any other direct or foreseeable pecuniary harms incurred as a result of the unlawful lockout, including reasonable search-for-work and 14 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB interim employment expenses, if any, regardless of whether these expenses exceed interim earnings.” Macy’s petitioned for review over the Board’s Decision and Order in the Fifth Circuit, and the Union filed its petition in this Court. Pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 2112, the Judicial Panel on Multidistrict Litigation transferred their Petitions for Review here, after this Court was randomly selected. The NLRB filed a Cross-Application for Enforcement of its final Order. These three petitions were consolidated here. II. STANDARD OF REVIEW We “must uphold a Board decision when substantial evidence supports its findings of fact and when the agency applies the law correctly.” United Nurses Ass’ns of Cal. v. NLRB, 871 F.3d 767, 777 (9th Cir. 2017) (internal quotation marks and citation omitted). “We review de novo whether the Board applied the correct legal standard.” NLRB v. Bingham-Willamette Co., 857 F.2d 661, 663 (9th Cir. 1988) (citing Allied Chem. & Alkali Workers of Am. v. Pittsburgh Plate Glass Co., 404 U.S. 157, 182 (1971)). The Board’s factual findings “shall be conclusive” if they are “supported by substantial evidence on the record considered as a whole . . . .” 29 U.S.C. § 160(e)–(f). “The Board has special expertise in drawing” inferences of unlawful motive and credibility, so “its determinations are entitled to judicial deference.” Kallmann v. NLRB, 640 F.2d 1094, 1099 (9th Cir. 1981) (citation omitted); accord Universal Camera Corp. v. NLRB, 340 U.S. 474, 496 (1951) (“We intend only to recognize that evidence supporting a conclusion may be less substantial when an impartial, experienced examiner who has observed the witnesses and lived with the case has drawn conclusions different from the Board’s than when he has reached the same conclusion.”).  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 15 Moreover, the Board’s “discretion in selecting remedies is ‘exceedingly broad,’ and we will enforce a remedy ‘unless it represents a clear abuse of discretion.’” NLRB v. Ampersand Publ’g, LLC, 43 F.4th 1233, 1236 (9th Cir. 2022) (quoting NLRB v. C.E. Wylie Constr. Co., 934 F.2d 234, 236 (9th Cir. 1991)). “Such an abuse of discretion is present if it is shown that the order is a patent attempt to achieve ends other than those that can be fairly said to effectuate the policies of the Act.” Id. at 1236–37 (quoting Wylie, 934 F.2d at 236). “Because the Board adopted the ALJ’s analysis” by affirming the ALJ’s rulings, findings, and conclusions, “we treat the Board’s order and the adopted ALJ analysis as one order.” Kava Holdings, LLC v. NLRB, 85 F.4th 479, 491 n.5 (9th Cir. 2023) (citation omitted). III. DISCUSSION To address the inherent “inequality of bargaining power” between employers and “employees who do not possess full freedom of association or actual liberty of contract,” 29 U.S.C. § 151, the NLRA “‘encourag[es] the practice and procedure of collective bargaining,’ between labor and management to resolve ‘industrial disputes arising out of differences as to wages, hours, or other working conditions,’” Glacier Northwest, Inc. v. Teamsters, 598 U.S. 771, 775 (2023) (alteration in original) (quoting 29 U.S.C. § 151). “The NLRA makes it unlawful for an employer to engage in unfair labor practices[.]” Hooks ex rel. NLRB v. Nexstar Broad., Inc., 54 F.4th 1101, 1106 (9th Cir. 2022) (citing 29 U.S.C. § 158). The NLRA also “grants the Board broad discretion to impose remedies for unfair labor practices.” Ampersand, 43 F.4th at 1238 (cleaned up). “The Board may take any ‘affirmative action’ 16 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB that ‘will effectuate the policies’ of the Act.” Id. (first quoting 29 U.S.C. § 160(c); then citing Va. Elec. & Power Co. v. NLRB, 319 U.S. 533, 539–40 (1943)). “Within this limit the Board has wide discretion in ordering affirmative action; its power is not limited to the illustrative example of one type of permissible affirmative order, namely, reinstatement with or without back pay.” Va. Elec., 319 U.S. at 539 (citing Phelps Dodge Corp. v. NLRB, 313 U.S. 177, 187, 189 (1941)). “The particular means by which the effects of unfair labor practices are to be expunged are matters ‘for the Board not the courts to determine.’” Id. (quoting Int’l Ass’n of Machinists v. NLRB, 311 U.S. 72, 82 (1940)). The Board here found that the Company’s lockout constituted unfair labor practices under Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of the Act. We deny both the Union’s and the Company’s Petitions for Review, and we grant the Board’s Cross-Application for Enforcement for the following reasons: (1) we have jurisdiction over this consolidated appeal; (2) substantial evidence supports the Board’s factual findings regarding the Company’s unlawful lockout; (3) the Board’s selection of remedies here is not a clear abuse of discretion; and (4) the Board’s final Order is enforceable under the circumstances here disclosed. A. Jurisdiction “A federal court of appeals may review the Board’s final order, if an aggrieved party seeks judicial review or if the Board seeks enforcement of its order.” Starbucks Corp. v. McKinney, 602 U.S. 339, 343 (2024) (citing 29 U.S.C. § 160(e)–(f)). Macy’s argues that the Union lacks standing as a “person aggrieved” by the Board’s Decision and Order within the meaning of § 160(f), because the Union “does not  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 17 deny that the Board granted it all of the relief that it had specifically sought in the [C]harge form[s] and [C]omplaint.” 3 Int’l Union of Operating Eng’r Loc. 501 v. NLRB, 949 F.3d 477, 482 (9th Cir. 2020). We review this jurisdictional question de novo, see Advanced Integrative Med. Sci. Inst., PLLC v. Garland, 24 F.4th 1249, 1256 (9th Cir. 2022), and conclude that we have jurisdiction because the Union is a “person aggrieved.” 4 After Macy’s filed its Exceptions to the ALJ’s Decision, the Union properly requested additional remedies not granted by the ALJ in its Cross-Exceptions. See 29 C.F.R. § 101.11(b) (“Whenever any party files exceptions, any other party . . . may file cross-exceptions relating to any portion of the administrative law judge’s decision.” (emphasis added)). Among other things, the ALJ’s recommended Order required that Macy’s, at “all locations 3 The NLRB’s “‘authority kicks in when a person files a charge with the agency alleging that’ an employer or labor union has engaged in an unfair labor practice.” McKinney, 602 U.S. at 342–43 (first quoting Glacier, 598 U.S. at 775; then citing 29 C.F.R. § 101.2 (2021)). Next, a Regional Director investigates the charge. Id. at 343 (citing 29 C.F.R. § 101.4 (2023)). “If the charge appears to have merit,” 29 C.F.R. § 101.8, then the Regional Director “institutes a formal action against the offending party by issuing an administrative complaint,” McKinney, 602 U.S. at 343 (citing 29 C.F.R. § 101.8). The NLRB General Counsel “prosecutes the government’s case.” Ampersand, 43 F.4th at 1235 (citing 29 U.S.C. § 153(d)). 4 Although Macy’s does not challenge our “jurisdiction to resolve the Board’s application for enforcement under 29 U.S.C. § 160(e),” we must assure ourselves of our own jurisdiction over the Board’s Cross-Application for Enforcement. NLRB v. Siren Retail Corp., 99 F.4th 1118, 1122, 1124 (9th Cir. 2024). Because we have jurisdiction under § 160(e) also, we may “proceed to the merits of the Board’s application for enforcement.” Id. at 1124. 18 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB in Northern California and Reno, Nevada,” physically maintain and post the Board’s notice “for 60 consecutive days in conspicuous places,” as well as distribute the same notice electronically to employees, or if Macy’s “has gone out of business or closed the facilit[ies] involved in these proceedings, . . . duplicate and mail, at its own expense, a copy of the notice to all current employees and former employees employed by the [Company] at any time since December 7, 2020.” According to the Board, the Union requested “several extraordinary remedies, including multiple notice readings by upper-level managers involved in the lockout, notice posting on the [Company’s] public website, notice mailing to all of the [Company’s] employees who had worked at locations where employees were locked out, and notice posting for at least three years.” The Board then denied “in part the relief sought,” 29 U.S.C. § 160(f), by expressly denying the Union’s request for “several extraordinary remedies . . . because the Board’s traditional remedies are sufficient to effectuate the policies of the Act in this matter.” See Textile Workers Union of Am., AFL-CIO v. NLRB, 475 F.2d 973, 974 & n.2 (D.C. Cir. 1973) (per curiam) (noting that the union was a “party aggrieved,” as it “petitioned for review of the Board’s refusal to order more stringent remedies”). Thus, jurisdiction over this consolidated appeal is proper. 5 5 By random selection for multidistrict litigation, see 28 U.S.C. § 2112(a)(1), (3), the Union’s and the Company’s Petitions for Review were first transferred and then consolidated here. As the alleged “truly aggrieved party,” Macy’s asserts that any remaining proceedings should be transferred to the Fifth Circuit, “wherein” Macy’s “resides or transacts business[.]” 29 U.S.C. § 160(f). However, the Union as a “person  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 19 B. The Lockout Under American Ship Building Co. v. NLRB, 380 U.S. 300, 318 (1965), an employer may lawfully lock out employees under Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of the Act “after a bargaining impasse has been reached,” if the lockout is “for the sole purpose of bringing economic pressure to bear in support of [its] legitimate bargaining position.” Macy’s insists that this is exactly what it did. We disagree. Two years after American Ship, the Supreme Court in NLRB v. Fleetwood Trailer Co., 389 U.S. 375 (1967), found that when, “after conclusion of the strike, the employer refuses to reinstate striking employees, the effect is to discourage employees from exercising their rights to organize and to strike,” id. at 378 (citing 29 U.S.C. §§ 157, 163). The Supreme Court determined that such interference with these rights by an employer constitutes an unfair labor practice under Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of the Act. Id. (citing 29 U.S.C. § 158(a)(1), (3)). Accordingly, as “the employer who refuses to reinstate strikers,” Macy’s “is guilty of an unfair labor practice” unless it can show “legitimate and substantial business justifications” for its lockout. Id. (citing NLRB v. Great Dane Trailers, Inc., 388 U.S. 26, 34 (1967)). Macy’s does not make such a showing, and substantial evidence supports the Board’s related findings. Macy’s first argues that the Board legally erred by failing to apply the so-called “Great Dane framework” to evaluate aggrieved,” could also file its petition with “the circuit wherein” the alleged unlawful lockout occurred. Id. Thus, we deny the Company’s request, Case No. 23-188, Dkt. 16, for transfer. 20 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB the alleged Section 8(a)(3) violation. We have previously acknowledged that: The Supreme Court has established a framework for determining whether employer conduct is unlawfully discriminatory. Some employer conduct is so “inherently discriminatory or destructive” of employee rights that anti-union motivation is inferred. NLRB v. Erie Resistor Corp., 373 U.S. 221, 227–28, 83 S. Ct. 1139, 10 L. Ed. 2d 308 (1963). If employer conduct is “inherently destructive,” the Board may find an improper motive regardless of evidence of a legitimate business justification. See NLRB v. Great Dane Trailers, Inc., 388 U.S. 26, 33, 87 S. Ct. 1792, 18 L. Ed. 2d 1027 (1967). If, on the other hand, “the adverse effect of the discriminatory conduct on employee rights is ‘comparatively slight,’” and the employer establishes a legitimate and substantial business justification for its actions, there is no violation of the Act without a finding of an actual anti-union motivation. Id. at 34, 87 S. Ct. 1792[.] Fresh Fruit & Vegetable Workers Loc. 1096 v. NLRB, 539 F.3d 1089, 1096 (9th Cir. 2008); see also id. (“In determining whether or not a company has violated the NLRA, the relevant inquiry is whether or not the employer’s action likely discouraged union membership and was motivated by anti-union animus.” (citing Metro. Edison, 460 U.S. at 700)). “The Supreme Court has defined  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 21 ‘inherently destructive’ conduct as conduct that ‘carries with it an inference of unlawful intention so compelling that it is justifiable to disbelieve the employer’s protestations of innocent purpose.’” Id. at 1096–97 (quoting Am. Ship, 380 U.S. at 311–12). Under this framework, the “burden of proving justification is on the employer.” Fleetwood Trailer, 389 U.S. at 378 (citing Great Dane, 388 U.S. at 34). Upon de novo review, we conclude that the Board applied the correct legal standard when it considered Dayton Newspapers, Inc., 339 N.L.R.B. 650 (2003), enforced in relevant part, 402 F.3d 651 (6th Cir. 2005), a prior NLRB decision in which the Board applied the Great Dane framework. See, e.g., Dayton Newspapers, 339 N.L.R.B. at 664 (“An employer’s unlawful refusal to reinstate economic strikers is conduct so inherently destructive of employee rights that evidence of specific antiunion motivation is not necessary to establish a violation of the Act.” (citing Great Dane, 388 U.S. 26)). “[T]he Board is not obligated to justify its interpretation anew with every application if it has done so adequately in a previous decision.” ITT Indus., Inc. v. NLRB, 413 F.3d 64, 70 (D.C. Cir. 2005) (citation omitted). The Board therefore did not legally err on this ground. For a lockout to be deemed lawful, “the union must be informed on a timely basis of the employer’s demands so that the union can evaluate whether to accept them and prevent the lockout.” Alden Leeds, Inc., 357 N.L.R.B. 84, 93 (2011) (collecting cases), enforced, 812 F.3d 159 (D.C. Cir. 2016). “[I]n order for employees to ‘knowingly [re]evaluate their position’ . . . , the employees must not only be informed that they are locked out, but they must be clearly and fully informed of the conditions they must meet to be reinstated.” Dayton Newspapers, 339 N.L.R.B. at 656 (quoting Eads Transfer, Inc., 304 N.L.R.B. 711, 712 (1991), 22 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB enforced, 989 F.2d 373 (9th Cir. 1993)). Relying on Alden Leeds and Dayton Newspapers, the Board concluded that Macy’s violated Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of the NLRA “by locking out employees, while at the same time never clearly and fully informing them of the conditions that must be met in order to be reinstated.” Reviewing the record as a whole, we find that substantial evidence supports the Board’s conclusion that Union employees were not clearly and fully informed of conditions they need to satisfy to be reinstated. As the ALJ found, [a]t the time Macy’s locked out the [Union] engineers on December 7, neither the Union nor the strikers knew [the Company’s] bargaining position. All they knew was that Macy’s was refusing to allow the engineers to return to work until there was a contract in place. However, because the Final Offer had expired, and Macy’s had not presented any other bargaining proposals to the Union, at the time of the lockout, neither the Union nor the employees were “clearly and fully informed of the conditions they must meet to be reinstated,” Dayton Newspapers, 339 [N.L.R.B.] at 656, nor did they have “a clear statement of the conditions that [the] employees must accept to avert the lockout.” Alden Leeds, Inc., 357 [N.L.R.B.] at 95. Nevertheless, Macy’s counters that its lockout was justified. “An employer must reinstate an economic striker who offers unconditionally to return to work, unless the employer has a substantial and legitimate business reason for  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 23 refusing to do so.” Zapex Corp. v. NLRB, 621 F.2d 328, 333 (9th Cir. 1980) (citations omitted); see also Dayton Newspapers, Inc. v. NLRB, 402 F.3d 651, 662 (6th Cir. 2005) (“An employer violates NLRA § 8(a)(3) and (1) if it fails to reinstate striking workers without showing a legitimate and substantial business justification.” (first citing Fleetwood Trailer, 389 U.S. at 378; then citing Great Dane, 388 U.S. at 34)). Macy’s asserts that the lockout was justified because it was imposed in support of its bargaining position. Macy’s further argues that it “followed Eads Transfer’s guidance by promptly informing the Union of its lockout on December 7, the first business day after the Union offered to return to work after a three-month strike.” Considering Dayton Newspapers, we conclude that the lockout was not justified. In Dayton Newspapers, 339 N.L.R.B. 650, the Board found an unlawful lockout where union workers, after a six-month strike, gave their unconditional offer to return to work during the holiday season on Thursday, December 23, 1999, and the company refused their request for reinstatement four days later, on Monday, December 27, 1999. See, e.g., Dayton Newspapers, 402 F.3d at 662 (“As a consequence of this refusal, the NLRB found that as of December 27, 1999, [the company] was engaged in an illegal lockout.”). Before the Board in Dayton Newspapers, the company complained that the union’s offer to return to work “came before the holidays and in the midst of [the company’s] attempt to solve problems with Y2K adjustments,” and that the company’s “representatives involved in decision-making were not available at a moment’s notice at that time of year[.]” 339 N.L.R.B. at 667. Recognizing that the Board “has the primary responsibility for balancing management’s business needs 24 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB with the workers’ right to be reinstated,” Dayton Newspapers, 402 F.3d at 663 (citing Fleetwood Trailer, 389 U.S. at 378), the Sixth Circuit concluded that the Board “did not err in finding that after December 27, [the employer’s] demands became a ‘moving target’ that made it ever more difficult for the [u]nion to knowingly evaluate its position and end the lockout,” id. Simply put, “employees must know at any point in the lockout what they can do to end it.” Id. at 662. As the NLRB, Macy’s, and the Union all agree here, at the time of the lockout there was no offer at all on the table— not a confusing or uncertain one or even a moving target. See Alden Leeds, Inc. v. NLRB, 812 F.3d 159, 164–66 (D.C. Cir. 2016) (concluding that the Board’s finding that the employer violated the NLRA is supported by substantial evidence, where the employer communicated an “unclear” proposal, “failing to provide the [u]nion with a timely, clear, and complete offer setting forth the conditions necessary to avoid the lockout”). Macy’s did not inform the Union of its demands or conditions in a timely, clear, and complete manner, preventing the Union members from having a fair opportunity to evaluate any bargaining proposals for either lockout or reinstatement purposes. See id. at 165. Worse than a “moving target” is not knowing where to aim at all. See Dayton Newspapers, 339 N.L.R.B. at 656. Macy’s concedes that it withdrew its Final Offer, and substantial evidence supports the Board’s finding that Macy’s rejected the Union’s wage proposal without proffering any other bargaining proposals before the lockout. Although Macy’s argues that its condition was that it required an agreement in place to end the lockout, we conclude that substantial evidence supports the Board’s  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 25 finding that such an indeterminate condition did not satisfy its obligations. The Union ended its strike and gave Macy’s its unconditional offer to return to work on December 4, 2020. Two days later, on December 6, 2020, Vega sent an email to Ashmore, stating that the employees would show up to work the next morning unless they were being locked out. That afternoon, Ashmore replied that: [The Union’s] unexpected offer, coming on a Friday afternoon after a contentious strike of over three months, implicates several administrative, logistical, and economic issues that need to be fully evaluated on our end with the input of several company employees. For that reason, the team should not return to work on Monday. This is not a lockout . . . . The next morning, on Monday, December 7, 2020, at least some of the Union members reported to work. On that day, Ashmore wrote to Vega: We have carefully evaluated your offer to have bargaining [Union] members return to work. We are not willing to reinstate bargaining [Union] employees until there is an agreement in place; this decision is being made in support of our bargaining position. Macy’s was “obligated to declare the lockout before or in immediate response to the strikers’ unconditional offer[] to return to work.” Eads Transfer, 304 N.L.R.B. at 713 (emphasis added). It was further required to inform the 26 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB Union fully and clearly on the conditions necessary for employees to be reinstated. See Dayton Newspapers, 339 N.L.R.B. at 656. Macy’s failed to satisfy either of these requirements, and instead it declared its lockout three days after the Union gave its unconditional offer to return to work and a day after Ashmore told Vega, “This is not a lockout . . . .” With such misdirection, the Union engineers would not be able to “knowingly reevaluate their position and decide whether to accept the employer’s terms and . . . take other appropriate action.” Eads Transfer, Inc. v. NLRB, 989 F.2d 373, 376 (9th Cir. 1993). Thus, we are unpersuaded that Macy’s met the “guidance” set forth by Eads Transfer, when Dayton Newspapers applied just that and found that a similarly situated employer there failed to set forth its conditions clearly and fully, so “the [u]nion could not intelligently evaluate its position and obtain reinstatement.” Dayton Newspapers, 339 N.L.R.B. at 656. Macy’s alternatively argues that its lockout was not only offensive, but also defensive. “[T]he Supreme Court’s American Ship decision has obliterated, as a matter of law, the line previously drawn by the Board between offensive and defensive lockouts.” Evening News Ass’n, 166 N.L.R.B. 219, 221 (1967). Accordingly, “a fundamental principle underlying a lawful lockout is that the Union must be informed of the employer’s demands, so that the Union can evaluate whether to accept them and obtain reinstatement,” Boehringer Ingelheim Vetmedica, Inc., 350 N.L.R.B. 678, 679 (2007) (emphasis added) (quoting Dayton Newspapers, 339 N.L.R.B. at 656), regardless of whether we characterize the lockout as offensive or defensive. Moreover, a lockout that is “defensive” in nature must be justified by an intent “to avoid severe and unusual hardships.” Id.  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 27 Before the ALJ, Macy’s argued that it had “good-faith concerns” over misconduct and sabotage by the Union, especially during the holiday shopping season, which it claims justified the “defensive” lockout. The ALJ systematically reviewed the Company’s submitted evidence, including witness testimony, and ultimately concluded that Macy’s provided those “post-hoc excuses” to bolster its defense and that the Company’s true “motive” in locking out its employees was to “gain economic leverage so the Union would accept” its new wage proposal that it submitted to the Union on December 10, 2020. Because the Board “carefully examined the record and [found] no basis for reversing” the ALJ’s credibility findings, we conclude that the Board’s “determinations are entitled to judicial deference[,]” based on its “‘special expertise in drawing’ inferences of credibility and unlawful motive[.]” Kava Holdings, 85 F.4th at 486 (quoting Kallmann, 640 F.2d at 1099). “We may not reject the ALJ’s credibility determinations unless a clear preponderance of the evidence shows they are incorrect.” Lippincott Indus., Inc. v. NLRB, 661 F.2d 112, 114 (9th Cir. 1981) (citations omitted). Here, the record as a whole shows that the ALJ’s conclusions and the Board’s reasoning about the Company’s misconduct and sabotage arguments and evidence were well-supported by the articulated and admissible facts. In sum, on this record, substantial evidence supports the Board’s finding that Macy’s violated the Act at the time of the lockout, where Macy’s failed to inform the Union fully and clearly on the conditions necessary for employees either to be reinstated, see Dayton Newspapers, 339 N.L.R.B. at 656, or to avoid a lockout before one even occurred, see Alden Leeds, 357 N.L.R.B. at 95. Macy’s failed to timely, clearly, and fully inform the Union of the conditions 28 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB necessary (e.g., new contract offers or other bargaining proposals) to prevent a lockout or to be reinstated, when the Final Offer expired on October 15, 2020, and Macy’s rejected the Union’s November 25, 2020 wage proposal without providing “any type of counter offer” before the lockout on December 7, 2020. In other words, Macy’s failed to meet its “burden of showing such a legitimate justification.” Eads Transfer, 989 F.2d at 375 (citing Fleetwood Trailer, 389 U.S. at 378). C. Remedies “The function of the remedy in unfair labor cases is to restore the situation, as nearly as possible, to that which would have occurred but for the violation.” Kallmann, 640 F.2d at 1103 (citing Phelps Dodge, 313 U.S. at 194). The Board’s selected remedies are challenged on two fronts. The Union argues that its requested additional remedies were improperly denied, but Macy’s contends that the traditional ones were awarded in error. The NLRB counters that its selection of remedies strikes the proper balance under its broad discretion. The Board’s “discretion in selecting remedies is ‘exceedingly broad,’ and we will enforce a remedy ‘unless it represents a clear abuse of discretion.’” Ampersand, 43 F.4th at 1236 (quoting Wylie, 934 F.2d at 236). Finding no clear abuse of discretion, we enforce the Board’s remedial order. 1. The Union’s Requested Additional Remedies The Board denied the Union’s request for “several extraordinary remedies” because it concluded that “traditional remedies are sufficient to effectuate the policies of the Act” here. The Union petitions for review of that determination, requesting four additional remedies: (1) a notice reading in the presence of members of management  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 29 responsible for the lockout decision; (2) an extended notice posting more than the standard sixty-day period; (3) a notice mailing to all Union members, including those who were locked out; and (4) a notice expressly explaining how Macy’s violated the Act. 6 We conclude that the Board did not clearly abuse its discretion in declining to award these remedies. See Wylie, 934 F.2d at 236. With respect to the first three additional remedies (a notice reading with management’s presence, an extended notice posting, and a notice mailing), we observe that they are typically reserved for “cases involving respondents who have shown a proclivity to violate the Act or who have engaged in egregious or widespread misconduct.” Noah’s Ark Processors, LLC, 372 N.L.R.B. No. 80, slip op. at 4 (Apr. 20, 2023) (finding “egregious or widespread” misconduct, where the respondent’s “violations seriously affected the entire unit by undermining their chosen bargaining representative, violating their right to have the [u]nion negotiate on their behalf, and demonstrating to them in no uncertain terms that the [r]espondent was willing to ignore a court order in order to violate their rights”), enforced, 98 F.4th 896 (8th Cir. 2024); see also Whitesell Corp., 357 N.L.R.B. 1119, 1124 (2011); HTH Corp., 361 N.L.R.B. 709, 714 (2014), enforced in relevant part, 823 F.3d 668 (D.C. Cir. 2016). Based on the record before us, we conclude that the Board did not clearly abuse its discretion, where the record does not contain evidence that Macy’s is a repeat offender of the Act or engaged in such 6 On appeal, the Union challenges the Board’s Decision and Order only to the extent its extraordinary remedies were denied; it does not take issue with the traditional remedies that were granted and the Board’s conclusion that Macy’s violated the Act by unlawfully locking out employees. 30 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB egregious or widespread misconduct that warrants these extraordinary remedies. As to the fourth additional remedy, the Union argues that the Board’s notice does not “contain affirmative language expressly explaining how Macy’s violated the Act.” For example, the Board’s notice that is required to be physically posted at the Company’s facilities and electronically distributed to employees, includes the statement, “WE WILL NOT lock you out without providing you with a timely, clear, and complete offer, that sets forth the conditions necessary to avoid the lockout.” Specifically, the Union requests that the Board either substitute or supplement “We will not” statements with those stating “[w]e have done or committed . . . .” 7 We agree with the NLRB that the 7 The Board’s notice also includes the following “We will” statements: WE WILL make the locked-out employees whole for any loss of earnings and other benefits resulting from the unlawful lockout, less any net interim earnings, plus interest, and WE WILL also make them whole for any other direct or foreseeable pecuniary harms suffered as a result of the unlawful lockout, including reasonable search-for-work and interim employment expenses, plus interest. To further clarify the Company’s actions to employees, however, the Union proposes the following amended language to the Board’s notice: We were found by the National Labor Relations Board to have violated federal law by refusing to allow members of [the Union] to return to work and unlawfully locked them out. We have agreed to remedy this violation by reinstating all locked out employees who wish to return and by making them whole for our conduct.  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 31 Union fails to show how it clearly abused its discretion by applying its “decades-old practice of including only ‘WE WILL’ and ‘WE WILL NOT’ phrases in its notices . . . .” See, e.g., HTH Corp. v. NLRB, 823 F.3d 668, 672 (D.C. Cir. 2016) (“In the ‘notice’ the officials are . . . to state 15 specific assurances in the form, ‘We will’ adhere to specified NLRA obligations and remedy various breaches, or ‘We will not’ violate the Act in a wide range of specified ways.”). Accordingly, we do not find a “clear abuse of discretion,” Ampersand, 43 F.4th at 1236 (quoting Wylie, 934 F.2d at 236), when the Board denied the Union’s “several extraordinary remedies” because traditional ones sufficed here. Thus, we deny the Union’s Petition for Review. 2. The Company’s Challenges to the Board’s Make-Whole Relief Macy’s argues that the Board erred in finding that it was liable throughout the lockout and in awarding the Union’s make-whole relief pursuant to Thryv, Inc., 372 N.L.R.B. No. 22, slip op. at 1 (Dec. 13, 2022) (clarifying that “make-whole relief” includes compensation “for all direct or foreseeable pecuniary harms” to affected employees), order vacated in part on other grounds, 102 F.4th 727 (5th Cir. 2024). 8 On June 4, 2024, the NLRB 8 Macy’s also argues that the Board erred by retroactively applying Thryv to award the Union’s make-whole remedy. On appeal, this argument is barred because Macy’s neither raised it first in a motion for reconsideration before the Board nor showed any extraordinary circumstances here. See 29 U.S.C. § 160(e) (“No objection that has not been urged before the Board, its member, agent, or agency, shall be considered by the court, unless the failure or neglect to urge such objection shall be excused because of extraordinary circumstances.”); see also NLRB v. Legacy Health Sys., 662 F.3d 1124, 1127 (9th Cir. 32 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB filed its Rule 28(j) letter, apprising this Court of the Fifth Circuit’s May 24, 2024 opinion in Thryv, Inc. v. NLRB, 102 F.4th 727 (5th Cir. 2024), which did not address the merits of the Board’s revised make-whole relief. We note that, “[a]s far as we can tell, this is a question of first impression for the Ninth Circuit . . . .” United Steel Workers of Am. AFL-CIO-CLC v. NLRB, 482 F.3d 1112, 1115 n.4 (9th Cir. 2007). We conclude that the Board did not clearly abuse its discretion in ordering make-whole relief. Thryv’s make-whole framework is valid when the remedies are equitable and “only actual losses [are] made good.” Phelps Dodge, 313 U.S., at 194. In other words, Thryv remedies must be “sufficiently tailored to expunge only the actual, and not merely speculative, consequences of the unfair labor practices.” See Sure-Tan, Inc. v. NLRB, 467 U.S. 883, 900 (1984) (describing this principle as “cardinal”). i. The Company’s Liability During the Entirety of the Lockout Macy’s insists that it cured the taint of its lockout by tendering its December 10, 2020 wage proposal to the Union, three days after the lockout began. We disagree. “We review the Board’s finding of taint for substantial evidence.” Denton Cnty. Elec. Coop., Inc. v. NLRB, 962 F.3d 161, 168 (5th Cir. 2020) (citations omitted). “[T]o cure a lockout, the employer must restore the status quo ante as well as end the lockout.” Alden Leeds, 812 F.3d at 166 (citing Greensburg Coca-Cola Bottling Co., 311 N.L.R.B. 1022, 1029 (1993), enforcement denied on 2011) (“Section 10(e) . . . bars judicial review of a newly minted objection to a remedial order when a party fails to move for reconsideration of the Board’s sua sponte modification.” (citations omitted)).  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 33 other grounds, 40 F.3d 669 (3d Cir. 1994)). “[A] lockout unlawful at its inception retains its initial taint of illegality until it is terminated and the affected employees are made whole.” Movers & Warehousemen’s Ass’n of Metro. Wash., D.C., Inc., 224 N.L.R.B. 356, 357 (1976) (emphasis added), enforced, 550 F.2d 962, 966 (4th Cir. 1977) (“We think it dispositive of the issue that the employers here failed to dissipate the effects of their unlawful lockout.”), cert. denied, 434 U.S. 826 (1977). Substantial evidence supports the Board’s finding that the lockout’s taint “was not cured when Macy’s presented the Union with its new wage proposal on December 10,” because that offer neither terminated the lockout nor made the affected employees whole. We recognize, however, that Macy’s may “avoid further liability if it is able to show affirmatively that a failure to restore the status quo ante did not adversely affect subsequent bargaining.” Alden Leeds, 812 F.3d at 166 (emphasis added) (quoting Greensburg Coca-Cola, 311 N.L.R.B. at 1029). It is the Company’s burden—not the Union’s or the NLRB General Counsel’s—“to show that its failure to restore the status quo ante had no adverse impact on the subsequent collective bargaining.” Movers, 224 N.L.R.B. at 358. This burden requires Macy’s “to disentangle the consequences for which it was chargeable from those from which it [was] immune.” Id. (quoting NLRB v. Remington Rand, 94 F.2d 862, 872 (2d Cir. 1938), cert. denied, 304 U.S. 576 (1938)). The ALJ found that Macy’s failed to carry its burden to make this affirmative showing. Indeed, the ALJ observed that, at the hearing, “[n]o such evidence was presented” by Macy’s. Macy’s counters that these erroneous findings “ignore[] substantial evidence that the parties negotiated in good faith 34 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB after the lockout.” According to Macy’s, “[i]f the lockout had adversely impacted the parties’ ongoing bargaining, then the [r]ecord would show . . . the Union was forced to accept a substandard proposal because of the lockout.” However, Macy’s misunderstands the standard. The fact that the record does not show the Union’s acceptance of a substandard proposal does not on its own satisfy the Company’s burden of showing “no adverse impact on the subsequent collective bargaining.” Alden Leeds, 357 N.L.R.B. at 84 n.3 (emphasis added) (quoting Movers, 224 N.L.R.B. at 358). The ALJ found that even the “limited evidence in the record” relating to the subsequent bargaining indicated that the Union made concessions, which were indicative of its weakened position because of the Company’s unlawful lockout. Those concessions included an offer to cap wage rates at the levels proposed in the Final Offer as well as proposals to “delete two engineer classifications from the contract, and further delete a section from the agreement that required Macy’s to contribute over $500 per engineer to a training fund.” Instead of addressing these concessions, Macy’s maintains that no inferior offer was accepted by the Union. These concessions represent substantial evidence in support of the ALJ’s finding. “In these circumstances, without a cessation of the lockout and a restoration of the status quo ante, it is difficult to conclude that any bargaining which ensued was not adversely affected[.]” 9 Movers, 224 N.L.R.B. at 358 (first and third 9 Under the NLRA, when negotiations fail, there is no “compulsion to reach agreement.” Amax, 453 U.S. at 336 (citations omitted). Macy’s needed to demonstrate that the lockout “did not adversely affect subsequent bargaining[,]” not subsequent contracting. Alden Leeds, 812 F.3d at 166 (emphasis added) (quoting Greensburg Coca-Cola, 311 N.L.R.B. at 1029).  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 35 emphases added). We conclude that substantial evidence supports the ALJ’s findings, as adopted by the Board, that Macy’s unlawful lockout placed the Union in a weakened bargaining position, and that Macy’s failed to satisfy its burden of showing otherwise. ii. The Board’s Revised Make-Whole Remedial Framework In Thryv, the Board “standardiz[ed] [its] make-whole relief to expressly include the direct or foreseeable pecuniary harms suffered by affected employees . . . .” 10 372 N.L.R.B. No. 22, slip op. at 7. The Board noted that “‘direct harms’ are those in which an employee’s ‘loss was the direct result of the [employer’s] illegal conduct,’” id. at 13 (quoting BRC Injected Rubber Prods., Inc., 311 N.L.R.B. 66, 66 n.3 (1993)), and that “foreseeable harms” are “those which the [employer] knew or should have known would be likely to result from its violation of the Act, regardless of its intentions,” id. Macy’s argues that the compensation for “direct or foreseeable pecuniary harms” as contemplated by Thryv would be improper “compensatory damages,” “consequential damages,” or “make-whole relief.” “[V]esting in the Board the primary responsibility and broad discretion to devise remedies . . . , subject only to 10 In response to the Court’s order requesting supplemental briefing, Macy’s argues that under the Supreme Court’s recent opinion in SEC v. Jarkesy, 603 U.S. 109 (2024), it is entitled to a jury trial on the so-called “Thryv remedies.” Macy’s failed to raise a Seventh Amendment objection to the Board, see 29 U.S.C. § 160(e), and it similarly failed to raise any Seventh Amendment arguments in this Court until prompted to do so by the Court’s order. We therefore decline to entertain this argument. See Greenwood v. FAA, 28 F.3d 971, 977 (9th Cir. 1994). 36 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB limited judicial review,” Sure-Tan, 467 U.S at 898–99 (collecting cases), Section 10(c) of the NLRA empowers the Board to “take any ‘affirmative action’ that ‘will effectuate the policies’ of the Act,” Ampersand, 43 F.4th at 1238 (first quoting 29 U.S.C. § 160(c); then citing Va. Elec., 319 U.S. at 539–40). We will not disturb the Board’s remedial order, “unless it can be shown that the order is a patent attempt to achieve ends other than those which can fairly be said to effectuate the policies of the Act.” Va. Elec., 319 U.S. at 540. Macy’s makes no such showing here. After “careful consideration” of both its “remedial authority” and “history of addressing the effects of unfair labor practices,” the Board in Thryv clarified and standardized its definition of “make-whole relief” to “expressly include the direct or foreseeable pecuniary harms suffered by affected employees” to “more fully effectuate the make-whole purposes of the Act.” 372 N.L.R.B. No. 22, slip op. at 7. We agree that make-whole relief, as a general matter, furthers the policy of the NLRA because it is “directly targeted” at the Company’s unlawful lockout and aimed at “restor[ing] the economic strength that is necessary to ensure a return to the status quo ante at the bargaining table.” Ampersand, 43 F.4th at 1238 (alteration in original) (citation omitted). According to Macy’s (and the partial dissent), the Board’s decision in Thryv improperly authorizes itself to award full compensatory damages. Macy’s contends that “the Board lacks the authority to award damages for purportedly foreseeable financial harms.” See, e.g., UAW-CIO v. Russell, 356 U.S. 634, 642–43 (1958) (“The power to order affirmative relief under [Section] 10(c) is merely incidental to the primary purpose of Congress to stop and to prevent unfair labor practices. Congress did not  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 37 establish a general scheme authorizing the Board to award full compensatory damages for injuries caused by wrongful conduct.” (citation omitted)). We agree that the NLRB is not authorized to award “consequential damages.” See Partial Dissent at 52. The NLRB “does not pursue the ‘adjudication of private rights.’ Rather, it ‘acts in a public capacity to give effect to the declared public policy of the Act . . . .’” EEOC v. Occidental Life Ins. Co. of Cal., 535 F.2d 533, 538 (9th Cir. 1976) (alteration in original) (quoting Nat’l Licorice Co. v. NLRB, 309 U.S. 350, 362 (1940)), aff’d, 432 U.S. 355 (1977). The broad “grant of remedial power” under the Act also “does not authorize punitive measures, but making the workers whole for losses suffered on account of an unfair labor practice is part of the vindication of the public policy which the Board enforces.” 11 NLRB v. Strong, 393 U.S. 357, 359 (1969) (cleaned up). 11 Significantly, the Board remains within its orbit here because its make-whole relief is designed “solely to ‘restore the status quo[,]’” so it is equitable in nature. Jarkesy, 603 U.S. at 123 (quoting Tull v. United States, 481 U.S. 412, 422 (1987) (“Remedies intended to punish culpable individuals, as opposed to those intended simply to extract compensation or restore the status quo, were issued by courts of law, not courts of equity.”)). The Board specifically states that its “make-whole remedies do not punish bad actors, but rather implement the statutory principles of rectifying the harms actually incurred by the victims of unfair labor practices and restoring them to where they would have been but for the unlawful conduct.” Thryv, 372 N.L.R.B. No. 22, slip op. at 11. We agree because “[t]he instant case”—where no actual remedies or monetary relief have been ordered—“is not a suit at common law or in 38 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB But the NLRB has not awarded such damages here. We therefore conclude that the Board’s invocation of Thryv’s make-whole relief framework in this case vindicates a public right. See Va. Elec., 319 U.S. at 543 (“The instant reimbursement order is not a redress for a private wrong. Like a back pay order it does restore to the employees in some measure what was taken from them because of the [c]ompany’s unfair labor practices.” (emphasis added)). “The fact that these proceedings (may) operate to confer an incidental benefit on private persons does not detract from this public purpose.” Occidental Life, 535 F.2d at 538 (citation omitted). To the extent that the Board’s make-whole relief “somewhat resemble[s] compensation for private injury,” that compensation is merely incidental to “the effectuation of the policies of the Act” because the remedy is primarily “designed to aid in achieving the elimination of industrial conflict[,]” vindicating “public, not the nature of such a suit.” NLRB v. Jones & Laughlin Steel Corp., 301 U.S. 1, 48 (1937). That any make-whole remedy must be “sufficiently tailored to the actual, compensable injuries suffered,” Sure-Tan, 467 U.S. at 901, contrary to the partial dissent’s view, also does not equate to the improper “adjudication or vindication of private rights,” Haleston Drug Stores v. NLRB, 187 F.2d 418, 420 (9th Cir. 1951), cert. denied, 342 U.S. 815 (1951); see also Amalgamated Util. Workers v. Consol. Edison Co. of N.Y., 309 U.S. 261, 269–70 (1940) (“It is the Board’s right to make that order that the court sustains. The Board seeks enforcement as a public agent, not to give effect to a ‘private administrative remedy’. Both the order and the decree are aimed at the prevention of the unfair labor practice.”). Instead, it merely underscores how the remedy is “an incident to [permissible] equitable relief,” Jones & Laughlin, 301 U.S. at 48, which “eschews mechanical rules and depends on flexibility,” Albemarle Paper Co. v. Moody, 422 U.S. 405, 417 (1975) (cleaned up).  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 39 private rights.” 12 Va. Elec., 319 U.S. at 543 (first citing Agwilines, 87 F.2d at 150–51; then citing Phelps Dodge, 12 On December 27, 2024, the Third Circuit issued its opinion in NLRB v. Starbucks Corp., --- F.4th ----, No. 23-1953, 2024 WL 5231549 (3d Cir. Dec. 27, 2024), granting the Board’s petition to enforce its order, yet vacating the Thryv remedies for exceeding the Board’s authority under the NLRA. Unlike the partial dissent, we do not view Starbucks as wholly in conflict with today’s opinion. Like the Third Circuit, we agree and recognize that the NLRB has long ordered, and still may order, monetary relief akin to backpay. Starbucks, --- F.4th ----, 2024 WL 5231549, at *11–12. We also agree, as we have emphasized, that any make-whole relief must be equitable in nature. Id. As the Third Circuit acknowledges, any monetary relief ordered by the NLRB must be a form of restitution addressing the result of the employer’s violation of the NLRA. See, e.g., id. at *11 (“The Board can still award monetary relief based on what the employer withheld as a result of an unfair labor practice.” (emphasis added)); accord Partial Dissent at 52; see also Phelps Dodge, 313 U.S. at 198 (“[O]nly actual losses should be made good[.]”). However, to the extent that the Third Circuit’s opinion could be read to invalidate any form of monetary relief because it “resembles an order to pay damages,” we disagree. Starbucks, --- F.4th ----, 2024 WL 5231549, at *12 (emphasis added) (citing Damages, Black’s Law Dictionary (12th ed. 2024) (defining “damages” as “[m]oney . . . ordered to be paid to[] a person as compensation for loss or injury”)). Resemblance alone cannot be dispositive, where Congress’s express grant of broad authority to the NLRB to fashion appropriate remedies, see 29 U.S.C. § 160(c), and those remedies’ nature and purpose, indicate that make-whole relief can operate “[l]ike a back pay order” that does restore to the employees in some measure what was taken from them because of the Company’s unfair labor practices. In this both these types of monetary awards somewhat resemble compensation for private injury, but it must be constantly remembered that both are remedies created by statute—the one explicitly 40 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 313 U.S. 177). After all, the NLRA’s overriding policy is “industrial peace.” Fall River Dyeing & Finishing Corp. v. NLRB, 482 U.S. 27, 38 (1987) (quoting Brooks v. NLRB, 348 U.S. 96, 103 (1954)). Accordingly, compensation for “direct or foreseeable pecuniary harms,” so long as it is equitable, would allow for “a restoration of the situation, as nearly as possible, to that which would have obtained but for” the unlawful lockout here. Phelps Dodge, 313 U.S. at 194. As such, the Board’s remedial order is not “a patent attempt to achieve ends other and the other implicitly in the concept of effectuation of the policies of the Act—which are designed to aid in achieving the elimination of industrial conflict. They vindicate public, not private rights. Va. Elec., 319 U.S. at 543 (emphases added) (first citing Agwilines, 87 F.2d at 150–51; then citing Phelps Dodge, 313 U.S. 177); see also Russell, 356 U.S. at 643 (quoting the same). Any permissible Thryv remedy must therefore operate like like a backpay order, serving to effectuate the policies of the Act by eliminating industrial conflict and giving something akin to restitution—in other words, it must be equitable. See Curtis, 415 U.S. at 197 (“[C]ourts of appeals have characterized back pay as an integral part of an equitable remedy, a form of restitution.”); see also Restitution, Black’s Law Dictionary (12th ed. 2024) (defining “restitution” as “[r]eturn or restoration of some specific thing to its rightful owner or status”). Such remedies only incidentally compensate employees to “insure meaningful bargaining,” Fibreboard Paper Prods. Corp. v. NLRB, 379 U.S. 203, 216 (1964), and to “restore the economic strength that is necessary to ensure a return to the status quo ante at the bargaining table,” Ampersand, 43 F.4th at 1238 (cleaned up) (citation and alteration omitted); see also supra note 11. “For this reason it is erroneous to characterize” equitable Thryv remedies “as penal or as the adjudication of a mass tort. It is equally wrong to fetter the Board’s discretion by compelling it to observe conventional common law or chancery principles in fashioning” the make-whole relief here. Va. Elec., 319 U.S. at 543.  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 41 than those which can fairly be said to effectuate the policies of the Act.” 13 Va. Elec., 319 U.S. at 540. We will not disturb the Board’s remedial order here, where “both the terms of the Act and the case law construing the Act support the Board’s action in this case,” and there has been no showing of any actual, issued remedy that is inequitable. King Soopers, Inc. v. NLRB, 859 F.3d 23, 38 (D.C. Cir. 2017) (collecting cases); see also id. at 37 (“The Board is entitled to considerable deference in crafting remedies for unfair labor practices, and the reasons given by the Board to 13 To the extent that Macy’s argues that “Thryv grants the Board unfettered discretion to determine whether a pecuniary loss is direct or foreseeable,” we disagree because the Supreme Court has previously acknowledged that “Section 10(c) . . . was intended to give the National Labor Relations Board broad authority to formulate appropriate remedies[,]” Loc. 28 of Sheet Metal Workers’ Int’l Ass’n v. EEOC, 478 U.S. 421, 446 n.26 (1986) (emphasis added), and that: [I]n the nature of things Congress could not catalogue all the devices and stratagems for circumventing the policies of the Act. Nor could it define the whole gamut of remedies to effectuate these policies in an infinite variety of specific situations. Congress met these difficulties by leaving the adaptation of means to end to the empiric process of administration. Phelps Dodge, 313 U.S. at 194 (emphasis added); see also Va. Elec., 319 U.S. at 539 (emphasizing that the Board’s remedial power “is not limited to the illustrative example of one type of permissible affirmative order,” such as backpay, and cautioning that the “particular means by which the effects of unfair labor practices are to be expunged are matters ‘for the Board not the courts to determine’” (first citing Phelps Dodge, 313 U.S. at 187, 189; then quoting Machinists, 311 U.S. at 82)). 42 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB justify the new make-whole remedial framework pass muster.”). 14 Macy’s also contends that the “pecuniary damages that [the Board] seeks to award are the wolf of consequential damages in the sheep’s clothing of ‘make-whole’ relief.” Macy’s asserts that this kind of relief here would be prohibited consequential damages under United States v. Burke, 504 U.S. 229 (1992), which is a tax consequence case relating to an action under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for sex-based discrimination in the payment of salaries. Although not controlling in the NLRA context, Burke demonstrates how the Board’s make-whole relief under Thryv is appropriate here, contrary to the Company’s assertion. For the below reasons, we find no reason to disturb the Board’s remedy, when it serves to “more fully effectuate the make-whole purposes of the Act.” Thryv, 372 N.L.R.B. No. 22, slip op. at 7. The Supreme Court in Burke distinguished between make-whole relief and damages recoverable under tort law. It considered this distinction in the context of determining whether a settlement payment relating to a backpay claim arising under Title VII would be excludable from gross income under the federal Internal Revenue Code (“IRC”), as 14 This is not Chevron deference. See Chevron, U.S.A., Inc. v. Nat. Res. Def. Council, Inc., 467 U.S. 837 (1984), overruled by Loper Bright Enters. v. Raimondo, 603 U.S. 369 (2024). Rather, it is a reflection of the discretion afforded by Congress to allow the Board to award remedies it deems fit to effectuate policies of the Act. See Phelps Dodge, 313 U.S. at 194 (“Because the relation of remedy to policy is peculiarly a matter for administrative competence, courts must not enter the allowable area of the Board’s discretion and must guard against the danger of sliding unconsciously from the narrow confines of law into the more spacious domain of policy.”).  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 43 “damages received . . . on account of personal injuries.” Burke, 504 U.S. at 230 (alteration in original) (quoting 26 U.S.C. § 104(a)(2)). To qualify for exclusion from gross income under the IRC, the respondents had to show that Title VII redressed a tort-like personal injury. Id. at 237. The Supreme Court observed “one of the hallmarks of traditional tort liability is the availability of a broad range of damages” that are unavailable in both Title VII and NLRA contexts. Id. at 235. Under tort law, one may be awarded sums “larger than the amount necessary to reimburse actual monetary loss sustained or even anticipated by the plaintiff,” as well as those amounts redressing “intangible elements of injury that are ‘deemed important, even though not pecuniary in [their] immediate consequence[s].’” Id. (alterations in original) (emphases added) (quoting D. Dobbs, Law of Remedies 136 (1973)). Thryv does not provide such relief. After all, relief under either the NLRA or “Title VII focuses on ‘legal injuries of an economic character[.]’” Id. at 239 (quoting Albemarle Paper, 422 U.S. at 418); see also Golden State Bottling Co. v. NLRB, 414 U.S. 168, 188 (1973) (“[A]n order requiring reinstatement and backpay is aimed at ‘restoring the economic status quo that would have obtained but for the company’s wrongful refusal to reinstate . . . .’” (quoting NLRB v. J.H. Rutter-Rex Mfg. Co., 396 U.S. 258, 263 (1969))). As the partial dissent points out, the Supreme Court in Burke also observed that Title VII “restor[es] victims, through backpay awards and injunctive relief, to the wage and employment positions they would have occupied absent the unlawful discrimination[,]” but not for nonpecuniary harms, including “other traditional harms associated with personal injury, such as pain and suffering, emotional 44 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB distress, harm to reputation, or other consequential damages (e.g., a ruined credit rating).” Burke, 504 U.S. at 239 (emphasis added) (citation omitted). Macy’s argues that these “express limitations in Burke apply with equal force to Section 10(c) of the Act,” because Title VII’s backpay provision was expressly modeled on the NLRA’s. See Pollard v. E.I. du Pont de Nemours & Co., 532 U.S. 843, 848–49 (2001) (noting that Title VII’s backpay provision, 42 U.S.C. § 2000e-5(g)(1), “closely tracked the language” of the Act’s backpay provision, 29 U.S.C. § 160(c), which gives courts “guidance as to the proper meaning of the same language”). Even if we accept this comparison, the Board’s make-whole relief is consistent with both Title VII’s, which it need not follow in this context, and the NLRA’s, which it must. For example, “Congress directed the thrust of [Title VII] to the consequences of employment practices,” Albemarle Paper, 422 U.S. at 422 (emphasis added) (quoting Griggs v. Duke Power Co., 401 U.S. 424, 432 (1971)), with a “clear purpose . . . to bring an end to the proscribed discriminatory practices and to make whole, in a pecuniary fashion, those who have suffered by it,” Bowe v. Colgate-Palmolive Co., 416 F.2d 711, 720 (7th Cir. 1969) (emphases added), as amended on denial of reh’g (Oct. 29, 1969). Similarly, under the NLRA, the Board’s “power to command affirmative action is remedial, not punitive, and is to be exercised in aid of the Board’s authority to restrain violations and as a means of removing or avoiding the consequences of violation where those consequences are of a kind to thwart the purposes of the Act.” Consol. Edison Co. of N.Y. v. NLRB, 305 U.S. 197, 236 (1938) (emphasis added); see also Albemarle Paper, 422 U.S. at 417–18 (“If employers faced only the prospect of an injunctive order, they would have little incentive to shun practices of dubious  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 45 legality. It is the reasonably certain prospect of a backpay award that provides the spur or catalyst which causes employers and unions to self-examine and to self-evaluate their employment practices . . . .” (cleaned up)); Thryv, 372 N.L.R.B. No. 22, slip op. at 11 (articulating similar principles). Moreover, the Board acknowledged that it “will not issue remedial orders for harms which are unquantifiable, speculative, or nonspecific.” Thryv, 372 N.L.R.B. No. 22, slip op. at 12 (emphasis added) (citing Nortech Waste, 336 N.L.R.B. 554, 554 n.2 (2001)). In Thryv, the Board addressed that any make-whole relief comprised of direct or foreseeable pecuniary harms will be fully litigated in a later compliance proceeding. See id. at 11–12. The NLRB General Counsel will have to prove whether any such relief is “not speculative,” and that it is “specific and easily ascertained.” Nortech Waste, 336 N.L.R.B. at 554 n.2. We conclude that a remedial framework that “specifically leav[es] to the compliance stage of the proceeding the question of whether the employees incurred” direct or foreseeable pecuniary harms “attributable” to the Company’s unlawful lockout, id., is not a clear abuse of discretion here. In other words, any later pecuniary order “must be sufficiently tailored to expunge only the actual, and not merely speculative, consequences of the unfair labor practices.” Sure-Tan, 467 U.S. at 900 (citation omitted)); Phelps Dodge, 313 U.S. at 198 (“[O]nly actual losses should be made good[.]”). Under the NLRA, Congress’s grant of remedial power entrusts the Board to make “workers whole for losses suffered on account of an unfair labor practice . . . .” Strong, 393 U.S. at 359 (quoting Phelps Dodge, 313 U.S. at 197); see also id. (“Back pay is one of the simpler and more 46 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB explicitly authorized remedies utilized to attain this end.” (emphasis added)). We conclude that the Board’s framework for compensation “for any other direct or foreseeable pecuniary harms incurred as a result of the unlawful lockout, including reasonable search-for-work and interim employment expenses,” is within the Board’s broad discretion of what “can fairly be said to effectuate the policies of the Act,” Va. Elec., 319 U.S. at 540, by restoring “the situation, as nearly as possible, to that which would have occurred but for the violation,” Kallmann, 640 F.2d at 1103 (citing Phelps Dodge, 313 U.S. at 194). The Board’s “order clearly falls within the general purpose of making the employees whole, and thus restoring the economic status quo that would have obtained but for” the Company’s unlawful lockout. J.H. Rutter-Rex Mfg., 396 U.S. at 263. “Imposing such remedies, designed to respond directly to an unfair labor practice, falls squarely within the heartland of the NLRB’s delegated powers.” Ampersand, 43 F.4th at 1238 (cleaned up). Accordingly, on the record as a whole, “we have no reason to find that the Board’s decision to change its remedial framework is ‘a patent attempt to achieve ends other than those which can fairly be said to effectuate the policies of the Act.’” King Soopers, 859 F.3d at 39 (quoting Fibreboard Paper, 379 U.S. at 216). Therefore, to the extent that Macy’s challenges the Board’s revised make-whole remedial framework, 15 we deny its Petition for Review. 15 As discussed, any remedies it does order must be equitable, specific, and only make “actual losses … good.” Phelps Dodge, 313 U.S. at 198. Macy’s can also raise its forfeited or waived arguments in the subsequent compliance proceeding.  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 47 D. The Circumstances Here Disclosed The partial dissent contends that the Board’s “actions were arbitrary and capricious and unsupported by the record.” Partial Dissent at 55. However, applying the law as it is, not as what the partial dissent wishes it to be, reveals that they were simply not. See Danielson v. Inslee, 945 F.3d 1096, 1103 (9th Cir. 2019); see also Dayton v. Peck, Stow & Wilcox Co., 739 F.2d 690, 694 (1st Cir. 1984). Our task is to “evaluate the entire record and uphold the NLRB if a reasonable jury could have reached the same conclusion, even if we would justifiably have made a different choice under de novo review.” Int’l All. of Theatrical Stage Emps., Loc. 15 v. NLRB, 957 F.3d 1006, 1013 (9th Cir. 2020) (emphasizing the standard of review) (cleaned up). For example, while it is possible to infer that the Company’s lockout could have been informed by “enormous logistical difficulties,” Partial Dissent at 83, the weighing of such evidence belongs to the Board, which “has special expertise in drawing inferences of credibility and unlawful motive, and [whose] determinations are entitled to judicial deference,” Kava Holdings, 85 F.4th at 486 (cleaned up). Here, substantial evidence supports the Board’s consideration and conclusion of the credibility and value of such evidence. See Int’l All. of Theatrical Stage Emps., 957 F.3d at 1013 (“Evidence is substantial when a reasonable mind might accept it as adequate to support a conclusion—even if it is possible to draw a contrary conclusion from the evidence.” (cleaned up)); see also 29 U.S.C. § 160(e) (“The findings of the Board with respect to questions of fact if supported by substantial evidence on the record considered as a whole shall be conclusive.” (emphasis added)); Starbucks, --- F.4th ----, 2024 WL 5231549, at *6 n.2 (noting that a judge on the 48 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB panel doubted the NLRB’s factual conclusions, but he recognized that because there is “more than a scintilla” of evidence to support the NLRB’s “contrary conclusions,” the court is “bound by the substantial evidence standard of review,” so it is barred from “explor[ing] the other ways of reading [the] record” (citation omitted)). Similarly, while the partial dissent raises potentially significant points about the scope of make-whole relief under Thryv, Macy’s neither properly challenged Thryv’s retroactivity or the Seventh Amendment’s application to this case nor showed “extraordinary circumstances” to warrant consideration of these issues. See supra notes 8, 10; see also 29 U.S.C. § 160(e); Legacy Health Sys., 662 F.3d at 1127; cf. Starbucks, --- F.4th ----, 2024 WL 5231549, at *12 (holding that the employer’s “statutory interpretation and Seventh Amendment challenges were not forfeited”). More critically, the Board has yet to order specific forms of relief, including those the partial dissent lambasts as “virtually unlimited.” See Partial Dissent at 61. Such costs could be beyond the Board’s remedial authority. See id. (listing examples including “day care costs, specialty tool costs, utility disconnection/reconnection fees, relocation/moving costs, legal representation costs in eviction proceedings, and expenses resulting from a change in immigration status”). Only actual “losses suffered on account of an unfair labor practice … should be made good.” Phelps Dodge, 313 U.S. at 197–98. And, indeed, the Board must still establish, in a later proceeding, how any make-whole relief it seeks is equitable or “sufficiently tailored to the actual, compensable injuries suffered” by the employees in this case. Sure-Tan, 467 U.S. at 901. It also bears repeating that “[i]n fashioning an appropriate remedy to address the substantial unfair labor  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 49 practices in this case, the Board was acting at the ‘zenith’ of its discretion.” Fallbrook Hosp. Corp. v. NLRB, 785 F.3d 729, 738 (D.C. Cir. 2015) (quoting Niagara Mohawk Power Corp. v. Fed. Power Comm’n, 379 F.2d 153, 159 (D.C. Cir. 1967)); accord 29 U.S.C. § 160(c) (authorizing the NLRB “to take such affirmative action . . . as will effectuate the policies” of the Act). Additionally, there has simply been “no showing that the Board’s order restoring the status quo ante to insure meaningful bargaining is not well designed to promote the policies of the Act. Nor is there evidence which would justify disturbing the Board’s conclusion that the order would not impose an undue or unfair burden on the Company.” Fibreboard Paper, 379 U.S. at 216. There has also been no meaningful showing that as a result of an unfair labor practice any make-whole relief in this case “exceed[s] what the employer unlawfully withheld[,]” or is not “closely tied to the equitable remedy of backpay.” Starbucks, --- F.4th ----, 2024 WL 5231549, at *11–12; see also supra note 13; accord Partial Dissent at 52. One final note: the amended dissent claims that our original opinion “accepted” the Board’s supposed “power grab wholesale” and that we now attempt to “narrow the Board’s authority to order relief in [this] amended opinion.” Partial Dissent at 49. But nowhere in the plain text of our original, or even amended, opinion did we provide such maximalist language, and the dissent is unable to point to any. Our amendments merely reiterate, perhaps to the point of redundancy, that we are unable to permit or prohibit any specific forms of relief at this stage. Such determinations must await the forthcoming compliance proceeding, where Macy’s can raise the arguments the dissent urges us to consider now, despite strict procedural bars that preclude us 50 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB from doing so. We only applied the law as it is, compelled by decades of precedent, not as what we wish, predict, or think it to be. In sum, we “decide[d] only the case before us and sustain[ed] the power of the Board” to tailor remedies that “effectuate the statutory purpose” behind the National Labor Relations Act “under the circumstances here disclosed.” Va. Elec., 319 U.S. at 543, 545 (emphasis added); see also Intalco Aluminum Corp. v. NLRB, 417 F.2d 36, 42 n.17 (9th Cir. 1969) (acknowledging that in Virginia Electric, the Supreme Court found that it “need not examine the various situations in those cases ‘or consider hypothetical possibilities’” (quoting Va. Elec., 319 U.S. at 545)); NLRB v. Reed & Prince Mfg. Co., 118 F.2d 874, 891 (1st Cir. 1941) (“We therefore think that under the circumstances here disclosed the broader prohibition as appears in . . . the Board’s order is within the discretion of the Board and should be enforced.” (emphasis added)), cert. denied, 313 U.S. 595 (1941). IV. CONCLUSION We have considered the Union’s and the Company’s remaining arguments and find them unpersuasive. For the foregoing reasons, we DENY both the Union’s and the Company’s Petitions for Review, and we GRANT the Board’s Cross-Application for Enforcement of its final Order. PETITIONS FOR REVIEW DENIED; CROSS-APPLICATION FOR ENFORCEMENT GRANTED; ORDER ENFORCED.  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 51 BUMATAY, Circuit Judge, dissenting in part: This case involves the fallout from a lengthy labor dispute between Macy’s and the International Union of Operating Engineers, Local 39 (“Union”), which represents some of the retailer’s engineers and craftsmen. After extensive negotiations over a new collective bargaining agreement, Macy’s gave the Union its best and final offer. The Union rejected that offer and went on strike. During the three-month strike, Macy’s accused Union members of harassing its customers and employees and sabotaging its facilities. The Union then made a surprise unconditional offer to return to work—shortly before the close of business on a Friday evening. Macy’s pleaded for time to respond to the offer, but the Union refused. So when the Union members showed up for work on Monday—the next workday—Macy’s did not let them start working and locked them out. Two days later, Macy’s gave the Union a new proposal to end the dispute and lockout. The Union again rejected Macy’s offer, and the two sides never reached an agreement. Enter the National Labor Relations Board. The Board’s in-house prosecutor charged Macy’s with an “unfair labor practice.” After a hearing, a Board Administrative Law Judge (“ALJ”) systematically rejected each of Macy’s defenses and found that Macy’s violated the National Labor Relations Act (“Act”) because it waited a whole two days before it gave a new offer to the Union. As punishment, the ALJ ordered Macy’s to make the Union members whole for any losses of pay and benefits that they may have suffered because of the lockout. Macy’s, Inc., 372 NLRB No. 42, at 21 (2023). On review, the Board agreed with the ALJ that Macy’s violated the Act. But it rejected the ALJ’s remedy 52 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB because it didn’t go far enough. Instead, the Board ordered Macy’s to “also compensate the employees for any other direct or foreseeable pecuniary harms incurred as a result of the unlawful lockout . . . regardless of whether these expenses exceed interim earnings.” Id. at 1 n.2 (emphasis added). And because the Union and Macy’s still haven’t come to an agreement, Macy’s must compensate the Union’s members for ongoing harms accumulating to this day—more than four years since the lockout. But the Board has no authority to order this type of monetary relief. Until three years ago, the Board had never claimed the authority to award consequential damages, like the ones ordered against Macy’s. See Thryv, Inc., 372 NLRB No. 22 (2022), overruled on different grounds, Thryv, Inc. v. NLRB, 102 F.4th 727 (5th Cir. 2024). Indeed, the Act restricts the Board to ordering only “back pay” and “affirmative action . . . as will effectuate the policies of” the Act. See 29 U.S.C. § 160(c). Somehow, the Board has transformed this limited statutory grant into something that covers credit card debt, withdrawals from retirement accounts, car loans, mortgage payments, childcare, immigration expenses, and medical expenses. See, e.g., Thryv, Inc., 372 NLRB No. 22, at 9. Never mind that granting the Board this authority would violate the Seventh Amendment. We create a needless circuit split in affirming the Board’s power grab. See NLRB v. Starbucks Corp., 125 F.4th 78, 97 (3d. Cir. 2024) (“While the Board can certainly award some monetary relief to the employees, that relief cannot exceed what the employer unlawfully withheld.”). At first, the majority accepted this power grab wholesale. See Int’l Union of Operating Engineers, Stationary Engineers, Local 39 v. NLRB, 127 F.4th 58, 67 (9th Cir. 2025). Now, even the majority recognizes that the Board’s  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 53 assertion of power is too sweeping and seeks to narrow the Board’s authority to order relief in its amended opinion. Unfortunately, the majority doesn’t go far enough. While the majority now tries to limit the Board to remedies that are “equitable,” Am. Maj. Op. at 40, it still leaves the door open for the Board to order foreseeable damages that are untethered from the law. The Board has already ordered that Macy’s “shall . . . compensate the employees for any other direct or foreseeable pecuniary harms incurred as a result of the unlawful lockout, including reasonable search-for-work and interim employment expenses, if any, regardless of whether these expenses exceed interim earnings.” See Macy’s, Inc., 372 NLRB No. 42 at 1 n.2. And the majority offers no guidance on how to fashion “equitable” foreseeable damages. Sure, the majority takes some of the most egregious costs that the Board seeks to impose off the table, such as “day care costs, specialty tool costs, utility disconnection/reconnection fees, relocation/moving costs, legal representation costs in eviction proceedings, and expenses resulting from a change in immigration status.” See Am. Maj. Op. 48 (simplified). But that leaves the Board with a wide array of costs it may impose under Thryv, such as “out-of-pocket medical expenses,” “credit card debt,” “other costs . . . to make ends meet,” “interest and late fees on credit cards,” “early withdrawal[ penalties] from . . . retirement account[s],” “[car] loan or mortgage payments,” and “transportation or childcare costs.” 372 NLRB No. at *15. And slapping the label that those foreseeable damages be “equitable” doesn’t cure the statutory violation here. That’s because foreseeable or consequential damages are fundamentally at odds with “equitable relief.” See Mertens v. Hewitt Associates, 508 U.S. 248, 256-57 (1993) (“‘equitable relief’ can also refer to those categories of relief 54 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB that were typically available in equity (such as injunction, mandamus and restitution, but not compensatory damages)”) (second emphasis added). Simply, under this statute, the equitable relief available to employees is limited to back pay and reinstatement. And given the legal nature of foreseeable or consequential damages, blessing the Board’s authority to impose these remedies would implicate the Seventh Amendment’s right to a jury trial. U.S. Const. amend. VII. This concern is heightened by the similarity between the injury the Board seeks to remedy and the common-law tort of wrongful termination. See SEC v. Jarkesy, 603 U.S. 109, 125 (2024). The majority would dispense with any concerns about the legal nature of the Board’s remedial scheme by declaring that the Board’s foreseeable-damages regime “vindicates a public right.” See Am. Maj. Op. at 38. As an alarming result—despite “declin[ing] to entertain” Macy’s Seventh Amendment objection, see Am. Maj. Op. at 35 n.10—the majority’s dicta would seemingly foreclose any Seventh Amendment challenge to the Board’s authority to impose consequential or foreseeable pecuniary damages. The majority just asserts that, so long as imposing foreseeable damages would further “industrial peace,” we apparently need not worry the relief takes a legal—not an equitable—form. See id. at 40 (simplified). But the majority’s vision of the public rights exception is much too broad. The Court has reminded us that this exception is only an exception. Jarkesy, 603 U.S. at 131. So “[e]ven with respect to matters that arguably fall within the scope of the ‘public rights’ doctrine, the presumption is in favor of Article III courts.” Id. at 132 (simplified). The limited “public rights” exceptions recognized by the Court are based on “centuries-old,” “background legal principles.” Id. at  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 55 131. And in Jarkesy, the Court refused to expand the list to include administrative adjudications over conduct that resembles “common law fraud.” Id. at 134. Thus, courts should be reluctant to expand the exception beyond the enumerated historical categories, especially those claims with common law analogues and involving legal remedies. See id. at 136. The better course would have been to follow the Third Circuit’s lead and nip this claim of expansive authority in the bud. And we never should have gotten this far. The Board’s actions were arbitrary and capricious and unsupported by the record. See Valley Hosp. Med. Ctr., Inc. v. NLRB, 100 F.4th 994, 1002 (9th Cir. 2024) (noting the standard of review under 5 U.S.C. § 706(2)(A)). The Board wrongly concluded that Macy’s needed to have a detailed proposal on the table within one working day of the Union’s offer of return to justify its lockout. This rule is as novel as it is unrealistic. It contradicts both Ninth Circuit precedent and the Board’s own precedent. The Board also ignored evidence that the lockout could have been justified as defensive given Macy’s reasonable concerns of sabotage and misconduct. While I agree with denying the Union’s petition for review, I respectfully dissent from the denial of Macy’s petition for review and from the grant of the Board’s application for enforcement. 56 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB I. The Board Lacks Authority to Order Foreseeable or Consequential Damages A. The Board is a limited-authority agency with a limited purpose and limited enforcement mechanisms. “The Board is not a court; it is not even a labor court; it is an administrative agency charged by Congress with the enforcement and administration of the federal labor laws.” Shepard v. NLRB, 459 U.S. 344, 351 (1983). Simply, the Board is not in the business of the “adjudication of private rights.” Phelps Dodge Corp. v. NLRB, 313 U.S. 177, 193 (1941) (simplified). Its only function is to “safeguard[] and encourage[] the right of self-organization.” Id. Thus, the Board was not established to award “full compensatory damages for injuries caused by wrongful conduct.” Int’l Union, United Auto., Aircraft & Agr. Implement Workers of Am. (UAW-CIO) v. Russell, 356 U.S. 634, 642–43 (1958). Instead, its authority to order relief is “merely incidental to the primary purpose of Congress to stop and to prevent unfair labor practices.” Shepard, 459 U.S. at 352. Given this, the Board can’t award consequential or foreseeable damages, which go beyond compensatory damages and include damages for harms that do not flow directly from an unfair labor practice. See Black’s Law Dictionary (12th ed. 2024) (defining “consequential damages” as those that “do not flow directly and immediately from an injurious act but that result indirectly from the act”). Despite its limited authority, the Board has assumed powers to award not only compensatory damages but all foreseeable damages—a species of consequential damages. In Thryv, the Board concluded that a company violated the  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 57 Act by unilaterally laying off six union employees and refusing to comply with the union’s information requests. 372 NLRB No. 22, at 3–4. Rather than apply its standard remedy to the case, the Board expanded its authority to award monetary relief. The Board concluded “that in all cases in which [its] standard remedy would include an order for make-whole relief, the Board will expressly order that the respondent compensate affected employees for all direct or foreseeable pecuniary harms suffered as a result of the respondent’s unfair labor practice.” Id. at 13 (emphasis added). The Board then defined “direct harms” as monetary losses that are the direct result of an unfair labor practice. Id. In contrast, it defined “foreseeable harms” as “those which the [employer] knew or should have known would be likely to result from its violation of the Act, regardless of its intentions.” Id. The Board has never included such broad, indirect harm as part of its make-whole remedy. See id. at 18 (Kaplan & Ring, dissenting in part). So what’s covered by “direct or foreseeable harm”? Quite a lot, it turns out. While the Board declined “to enumerate all the pecuniary harms that may be considered direct or foreseeable in the myriad of unfair labor practices that come before us[,]” they made clear it’s very expansive. Id. at 12. The Board explained that foreseeable harms include indirect costs, “such as out-of-pocket medical expenses, credit card debt, or other costs simply in order to make ends meet.” Id. at 9. The Board also made clear that “penalties” related to “early withdrawals from [a] retirement account,” “loan or mortgage payments,” and “transportation or childcare costs” could all be fair game. Id. And this list didn’t even represent the “limits of the Board’s statutory remedial authority,” it’s only the “minimum” for make- whole relief. Id. at 7 n.10 (emphasis added). The Board’s 58 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB General Counsel added even more costs to the list: unreimbursed tuition payments, job search costs, day care costs, specialty tool costs, utility disconnection/reconnection fees, relocation/moving costs, legal representation costs in eviction proceedings, and expenses resulting from a change in immigration status. Office of the General Counsel Memorandum GC 24-04, Securing Full Remedies for All Victims of Unlawful Conduct (Apr. 8, 2024). 1 So now everything is on the table under the Board’s newly claimed authority—the only limit is the Board’s imagination. Of course, the Board denied that these broad remedies make up “consequential damages.” But that’s hard to believe given that the Board specifically invited briefing on whether it should adopt consequential damages as part of its make-whole remedy in that very case. Thryv, Inc., 372 NLRB No. 22, at 6 n.8, 8. Indeed, the Board’s Chairman has labeled as “consequential damages” harms such as late fees on credit cards, penalties for early withdrawals from retirement accounts, and the loss of a vehicle or home if an employee is unable to make loan or mortgage payments. See Voorhees Care & Rehab. Ctr., 371 NLRB No. 22, 4 n.14 (2021). Perhaps recognizing its overreach, the Board pretends its adoption of a “foreseeable damages” standard is something different than consequential damages. Yet the only distinction the Board draws between the two is observing that “consequential damages” is “a term of art used to refer to a specific type of legal damages awarded in other areas of the law.” Thryv, Inc., 372 NLRB No. 22, at 8. Yes, it’s a term of art for tort and contracts law, but the Board can’t simply put lipstick on the pig and call it “foreseeable damages.” That doesn’t change its legal nature—it’s still 1 Available at https://perma.cc/P8CN-HZBS.  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 59 consequential damages no matter how it’s spun. And, as the Board admits, consequential damages are a remedy for private rights—not the sort of thing that the Board may vindicate. The Board’s remedy proved to be too much for its entire membership to stomach. Two members dissented. They explained that the Board’s new remedial standard “would permit recovery for any losses indirectly caused by an unfair labor practice, regardless of how long the chain of causation may stretch from unfair labor practice to loss, whenever the loss is found to be foreseeable.” Id. at 16 (Kaplan & Ring, dissenting in part). They warned that “this standard opens the door to awards of speculative damages that go beyond the Board’s remedial authority.” Id. First, they noted that “‘foreseeability’ is a central element of tort law” and that “[a]ny attempt to address tort claims in a Board proceeding obviously runs headlong into the Seventh Amendment’s guarantee of the right to have such claims tried before a jury.” Id. at 18–19. Second, the dissent observed that the Board’s foreseeable damages remedy “go[es] well beyond tort law,” because the remedy wasn’t even limited by proximate cause. Id. at 19. So, to the dissenting members, the Board’s newly minted power is even greater than the power to award consequential damages. B. The Board exceeded its authority in ordering Macy’s to pay foreseeable or consequential damages. First, nothing in the text of the Act authorizes such expansive authority for the Board. Second, reading the Act to grant these broad remedies, as the dissenting Board members noted, puts the Board in conflict with the Seventh Amendment. 60 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 1. Let’s start with the Board’s statutory authority to fashion remedies for unfair labor practices. To remedy an unfair labor practice, Congress granted the Board authority to: [I]ssue and cause to be served on . . . [a] person [who committed the unfair labor practice] an order requiring such person to cease and desist from such unfair labor practice, and to take such affirmative action including reinstatement of employees with or without back pay, as will effectuate the policies of this subchapter. 29 U.S.C. § 160(c). Thus, in all cases, the Board’s remedial authority must further the policies of the Act, which are to: [E]liminate the causes of certain substantial obstructions to the free flow of commerce and to mitigate and eliminate these obstructions when they have occurred by encouraging the practice and procedure of collective bargaining and by protecting the exercise by workers of full freedom of association, self-organization, and designation of representatives of their own choosing, for the purpose of negotiating the terms and conditions of their employment or other mutual aid or protection. 29 U.S.C. § 151. While an admittedly broad policy statement, it only provides for vindication of public rights—not of private  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 61 rights, which consequential damages are designed to remedy. Consistent with that understanding, the Supreme Court recognized long ago that the Board’s functions are “narrowly restricted to the protection and enforcement of public rights” and that it thus has no role to play in the “adjudication of private rights.” Nat’l Licorice Co. v. NLRB, 309 U.S. 350, 362–63 (1940). So even with the Board’s power to fashion affirmative acts to carry out federal labor policies, it can’t order relief that is “a patent attempt to achieve ends other than those which can fairly be said to effectuate the policies of the Act.” Va. Elec. & Power Co. v. NLRB, 319 U.S. 533, 540 (1943). For example, the Board isn’t vested with “a virtually unlimited discretion to devise punitive measures” and it can’t “prescribe penalties or fines which the Board may think would effectuate the policies of the Act.” Republic Steel Corp. v. NLRB, 311 U.S. 7, 11 (1940). As Judge Learned Hand said long ago, “[t]he ‘affirmative action’ which the section contemplates must be remedial, and not punitive or disciplinary . . . and the order, qua payments, must therefore be confined to restitution for the wrong done, however widely that should be conceived.” NLRB v. Leviton Mfg. Co., 111 F.2d 619, 621 (2d Cir. 1940). Thus, the Board’s authority begins and ends with the enforcement of public rights—its role is not to vindicate the private rights of aggrieved employees. Even so, the Board expressly sought to vindicate private rights in its Thryv decision. In adopting its consequential damages or foreseeable harm regime, its goal was to “rectify[] the harms actually incurred by the victims of unfair labor practices.” Thryv, Inc., 372 NLRB No. 22, at 11. In justifying the broad remedy, the Board noted the need to assist “wrongfully-terminated employees [who] may incur ‘expenses for transportation, room, and board’” related to 62 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB their termination. Id. at 7 (simplified) (emphasis added). This is no different than vindicating the private right against wrongful termination, which falls outside the Act’s statutory policies. The Board also acknowledged its new remedy has a compensatory—rather than restitutionary—purpose: “making employees whole should include, at least, compensating them for direct or foreseeable pecuniary harms resulting from the [employer’s] unfair labor practice.” Id. at 8 (emphasis added). And the Board reads “foreseeable harms” as broadly as possible—it includes medical expenses, credit card debts and fees, car payments, mortgage payments, childcare costs, and transportation costs. See id. at 9. These rectify individualized private harms at law. As the Court has said, “one of the hallmarks of traditional tort liability is the availability of a broad range of damages to compensate the plaintiff ‘fairly for injuries caused by the violation of his legal rights.’” United States v. Burke, 504 U.S. 229, 235 (1992) (simplified). All this shows that the Board’s make-whole remedy goes far beyond “effectuat[ing] the policies” of the Act. See 29 U.S.C. § 160(c). Instead, it vindicates private rights. And the Act “limits the Board’s remedial authority to equitable, not legal, relief.” Starbucks Corp., 125 F.4th at 95. Besides violating the policies of the Act, the Board’s new remedy also violates the text of the Act. The Board can issue a “cease and desist” order and instruct the “reinstatement of employees with or without back pay.” 29 U.S.C. § 160(c). None of these express grants of power encompass the award of foreseeable or consequential damages. Under the Board’s “cease and desist” authority, it may enjoin “future conduct” that would violate the Act. See NLRB v. C.E. Wylie Const. Co., 934 F.2d 234, 237 (9th Cir. 1991). Yet injunctive power  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 63 doesn’t authorize the award of the damages it seeks now. And the power to authorize “back pay” doesn’t provide the Board with the ability to award consequential damages. In this context, “back pay” means pay that is unpaid but due. See A Dictionary of Modern American Usage at 17 (1935) (defining “back pay” as an “arrears of a pay”); Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary at 59 (1936) (defining “arrears” as “that which is unpaid but due”). Together, the Act authorizes the Board to remedy violations of unfair labor practices by restoring wages and employment positions that employees would have otherwise received in the absence of unfair labor practices. But such injunctive relief and back pay awards don’t provide the textual hook for the expansive remedy sought here. However broadly it’s possible to read the Board’s remedial authority, Congress confirmed its narrow powers through its Taft–Hartley amendments. See Labor Management Relations Act of 1947, Pub. L. No. 80-101, 101, 61 Stat. 136, 147. In 1947, Congress amended § 160(c) and precluded the Board from awarding remedies to an employee “who had been discharged because of misconduct.” See Fibreboard Paper Products Corp. v. NLRB, 379 U.S. 203, 217 (1964). After the amendment, § 160(c) then said, No order of the Board shall require the reinstatement of any individual as an employee who has been suspended or discharged, or the payment to him of any back 64 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB pay, if such individual was suspended or discharged for cause. 29 U.S.C. § 160(c) (emphasis added). Through this amendment, Congress expressly set the universe of the Board’s remedial power to grant monetary relief for aggrieved employees—it’s limited to reinstatement and back pay. If Congress intended the Board to have broader power to direct monetary relief, such as ordering foreseeable or consequential damages, it would have said so in this provision. Otherwise, the Board would be precluded from awarding back pay when the employee commits misconduct, but it may still grant the same employee foreseeable or consequential damages. This reading makes little sense. Our duty is to interpret the law “as a symmetrical and coherent regulatory scheme” and “fit, if possible, all parts into an harmonious whole.” FDA v. Brown & Williamson Tobacco Corp., 529 U.S. 120, 133 (2000) (simplified). The best reading of § 160(c) then cabins the Board’s remedial measures over employees and forecloses the Board from ordering consequential or foreseeable damages. So while the Board may have discretion to devise remedies to further the Act, when ordering relief for individual employees, it’s limited to reinstatement and back pay. This flows from the Board’s narrow design to remedy only public rights. The Board dismisses this textual restraint on its powers. It does so by misreading Fibreboard Paper Products. In that case, the Board ordered a company to resume certain business operations, to reinstate terminated employees with back pay, and to bargain with the union. 379 U.S. at 209. It was argued in that case that the Board’s order violated § 160(c)’s prohibition against reinstatement and back pay for employees “discharged for cause.” Id. at 217. As mentioned  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 65 earlier, the Court determined that the provision precluded the Board from “reinstating an individual who had been discharged because of misconduct.” Id. (emphasis added). But the Court observed that the provision did not “curtail the Board’s power in fashioning remedies when the loss of employment stems directly from an unfair labor practice as in the case at hand.” Id. (emphasis added). The Board takes this language to green-light the award of consequential damages. But it did nothing of the sort. Instead, with these sentences, the Court distinguished between employees fired because of misconduct and employees fired because of unfair labor practices. The Court simply reinforced the straightforward reading of the text—while the Taft–Hartley amendment implicated the former, it had nothing to do with the latter. Nowhere did the Court say that the Board could disregard the obvious textual limitations on remediating employees. If there were any doubts as to the limits of the Board’s authority, the Court laid them to rest in Burke. In that case, the Supreme Court analyzed the remedies available under Title VII—an employee anti-discrimination statute. See Burke, 504 U.S. at 237–38 (analyzing 42 U.S.C. § 2000e– 2(a)(1)). Title VII is important here because its “remedial scheme was expressly modeled on the backpay provision of the National Labor Relations Act.” Id. at 240 n.10. Indeed, Title VII’s remedial provision will look familiar. It’s nearly identical to the Act’s: [T]he court may enjoin the respondent from engaging in such unlawful employment practice, and order such affirmative action as may be appropriate, which may include, but is not limited to, reinstatement or hiring of 66 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB employees, with or without back pay . . . or any other equitable relief as the court deems appropriate. 42 U.S.C. § 2000e–5(g)(1). Given their ties and similar language, we should follow the Court’s reading of Title VII. The Court said, “Title VII does not allow awards for compensatory or punitive damages; instead, it limits available remedies to backpay, injunctions, and other equitable relief.” Burke, 504 U.S. at 238. We should also follow how the Court defined the scope of Title VII’s remedy: it “consists of restoring victims, through backpay awards and injunctive relief, to the wage and employment positions they would have occupied absent the unlawful discrimination.” Id. at 239. Title VII doesn’t permit the compensation of a “plaintiff for any of the other traditional harms associated with personal injury, such as pain and suffering, emotional distress, harm to reputation, or other consequential damages (e.g., a ruined credit rating).” Id. Indeed, “[n]othing in this remedial scheme purports to” do so. Id. In the Court’s view, Title VII’s limited remedies stood in contrast “to those available under traditional tort law.” Id. at 240. So let’s recap. Title VII and the Act have similar purposes (the protection of employees), a similar remedial design, and similar textual language. And the Supreme Court has definitively established the remedies available under Title VII. The obvious response is to give the Act a similar reading. It’s baffling that the Board argues otherwise. But there’s more evidence of this commonsense reading. In the Civil Rights Act of 1991, Congress amended Title VII  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 67 to expressly add “compensatory and punitive damages” to its remedial scheme. See Pub. L. No. 102-166, 105 Stat. 1071; 42 U.S.C. § 1981a. If such damages were already available under the Title VII’s original language, then Congress wouldn’t have needed to act. Given their similarities, if Title VII required amendment to allow compensatory and punitive damages, logic dictates that the Act likewise would need amendment before granting the Board authority to order consequential or foreseeable damages. *** Thus, the Board exceeded its authority under § 160(c) in devising its newfound foreseeable-damages remedy. 2. Even though § 160(c) is clear on its face, the Seventh Amendment commands that we resolve any ambiguity by rejecting the Board’s claim of broad authority to order consequential or foreseeable damages. The Seventh Amendment guarantees the right to trial by jury “[i]n Suits at common law.” U.S. Const. amend. VII. If administrative agencies, like the Board, seek to impose damages on a party that resemble those available in “Suits at common law,” then the party must receive a jury trial. Issuing broad consequential damages—a tort remedy—thus implicates the Seventh Amendment. The dissenting Board members saw this danger clearly in opposing the Board’s power grab. See Thryv, Inc., 372 NLRB No. 22, at 16 (“We further observe that the Board faces potential Seventh Amendment issues if it strays into areas more akin to tort remedies.”) (Kaplan and Ring, dissenting in part). So even if the Board’s statutory authorities here are “susceptible of multiple interpretations,” we should “shun an interpretation that raises serious 68 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB constitutional doubts and instead . . . adopt an alternative that avoids those problems.” Jennings v. Rodriguez, 583 U.S. 281, 286 (2018). The Supreme Court recently explained the scope of the Seventh Amendment. See Jarkesy, 603 U.S. 109. The Court first reiterated that the right to a jury trial is “of such importance and occupies so firm a place in our history and jurisprudence that any seeming curtailment of the right has always been and should be scrutinized with the utmost care.” Id. at 121 (simplified). The Court then concluded that the term, “Suits at common law,” contrasted with cases in equity and admiralty. Id. at 122. The right to jury trial, then, applies to all suits “which are not of equity or admiralty jurisdiction, whatever may be the peculiar form which they may assume.” Id. (simplified). And it doesn’t matter whether the claim is born of statute. The constitutional guarantee also encompasses statutory claims that are “legal in nature.” Id. (simplified). And to determine whether a claim is “legal in nature,” the Court directed that we consider both “the cause of action and the remedy it provides.” Id. at 122–23. In the end, however, the remedy is the “more important consideration” in determining whether the Seventh Amendment applies. Id. at 123 (simplified). Indeed, in many cases, consideration of the remedy should be “all but dispositive.” Id. But even when the Seventh Amendment applies, an exception exists. Id. at 127. Under the “public rights” exception, “Congress may assign [a] matter for decision to an agency without a jury, consistent with the Seventh Amendment.” Id. Jarkesy gives us some takeaways. First, it doesn’t matter who brings the claims or how they are labeled. The Seventh Amendment applies even to administrative agencies and even if they call the claim something other than a “legal  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 69 claim.” See id. at 121–24. Second, we look at both the nature of the claim and the remedies the agency seeks. And the remedy alone may be enough to invoke the Seventh Amendment. See id. at 123–24. Third, we must consider if the public rights exception would still allow the administrative adjudication to go forward. See id. at 127. Given these principles, reading § 160(c) to authorize the Board to award consequential or foreseeable damages would raise serious constitutional doubt under the Seventh Amendment. First, consider the remedies the Board seeks to impose— arguably the most important concern. Recall, under its make-whole authority, the Board believes that it may make employers pay for any foreseeable pecuniary harm that employees experience because of an unfair labor practice. This includes such attenuated harms as babysitting fees, credit card late fees, car payments, and attorneys’ fees to sue landlords. But all this exceeds the purely equitable remedies that the Board may order. Without question, the Board has the equitable powers to restore employees to the status quo through monetary relief. See NLRB v. Jones & Laughlin Steel Corp., 301 U.S. 1, 48 (1937) (the Board may order a monetary recovery as “an incident to equitable relief”). But the Board’s authority to order payments “must . . . be confined to restitution for the wrong done.” Leviton Mfg. Co., 111 F.2d at 621. It has no authority to award money damages as a tort remedy. See Jarkesy, 603 U.S. at 123 (“[M]oney damages are the prototypical common law remedy”); Teamsters v. Terry, 494 U.S. 558, 570 (1990) (“Generally, an action for money damages was ‘the traditional form of relief offered in the courts of law.’”) (simplified). 70 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB To be sure, sometimes equitable restitution and money damages can look the same. In some cases, they can even lead to the same dollar award against a party. See Dan B. Dobbs, 1 Dobbs Law of Remedies 280 (2d. ed. 1993). Even so, they are distinct. And this distinction is significant: [T]hey are often triggered by different situations and always measured by a different yardstick. Damages always begins with the aim of compensation for the plaintiff . . . . Restitution, in contrast, begins with the aim of preventing unjust enrichment of the defendant. To measure damages, courts look at the plaintiff’s loss or injury. To measure restitution, courts look at the defendant’s gain or benefit. Id. In other words, what distinguishes ordinary money damages at law from “equitable restitution and other monetary remedies available in equity” is that for money damages “the question is what has the owner lost, not what has the taker gained.” City of Monterey v. Del Monte Dunes at Monterey, Ltd., 526 U.S. 687, 710 (1999) (simplified). And so, as a corollary, the question for equitable remedies is only the unjust gain of the taker or employer—not the loss to the owner or employee. Explaining the difference between equitable monetary relief and monetary damages should illuminate the problem here. The Board wants to measure monetary relief from the perspective of the employee’s loss—not the employer’s gain. The Board’s foreseeable-damages regime asks: What did the employee lose? What fees did the employee incur because of the unfair labor practice? What opportunities did  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 71 the employee forgo because of the proscribed conduct? But this would be inappropriate under equity. Equitable relief should ask only what the employer has unjustly gained. When employers withhold pay from employees based on unlawful employment actions, employers unjustly keep the employees’ wages and so equitable relief equates to back pay—exactly as contemplated by § 160(c). On the other hand, the award of broad foreseeable damages goes beyond equitable restitution and crosses into the tort remedy of money damages. Indeed, given how far-reaching the Board views foreseeable damages—encompassing any indirect harm no matter how remote from the unfair labor practice—these awards are nearly indistinguishable from punitive damages, which only courts of law may impose. See Jarkesy, 603 U.S. at 123–25. As the dissenting members noted, the Board’s new consequential-damages regime isn’t even limited by the requirement of “proximate cause”—which makes the Board’s remedy “go well beyond tort law.” Thryv, Inc., 372 NLRB No. 22, at 19 (Kaplan and Ring, dissenting in part). By awarding damages for harms that are not directly or proximately caused by unfair labor practices, we move from mere compensation to granting a windfall to aggrieved employees. And when “compensatory damages exceed pure compensation,” they may become “punitive.” See Dobbs, Law of Remedies 455. True, the Board tries to get around this conclusion by denying any punitive motive for its new remedy. But let’s look at what the Board said. The Board claimed the remedy wouldn’t be punitive because it applied to all cases, rather than just to extraordinary ones. Thryv, Inc., 372 NLRB No. 22, at 17. Yet the Board conceded that “if we were to issue this make-whole relief only to address the most deplorable 72 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB or flagrant violations of the Act, these remedies run the risk of becoming punitive rather than restorative.” Id. In other words, the Board acknowledges the punitive nature of its expansive foreseeable-harm remedy but understands that applying it selectively would make it blatantly punitive, which it knows it can’t do. But a punitive measure is still punitive even if it applies across the board. Thus, based on the remedies alone, the Board’s imposition of foreseeable damages would implicate the Seventh Amendment—giving us every reason to avoid reading § 160(c) so broadly. Second, the “close relationship” between the Board’s efforts to block unfair labor practices and the common-law tort of wrongful termination supports reading the Board’s remedial powers narrowly. See Jarkesy, 603 U.S. at 125. Take this case. The Board asserts that Macy’s violated the Act by locking out employees without clearly and fully informing them of the conditions for their reinstatement— effectively terminating them. See Macy’s, Inc., 372 NLRB No. 42, at 20. But California, where most of the Macy’s stores were located, recognizes a tort cause of action for wrongful terminations that violate public policy. See Freund v. Nycomed Amersham, 347 F.3d 752, 758 (9th Cir. 2003) (requiring that the public policy “inures to the benefit of the public rather than serving merely the interests of the individual” (simplified)); see also American Law of Torts § 34:83 (2024) (observing that the tort of wrongful termination exists when an (1) “employee was discharged by his or her employer” and (2) “the employer breached a contract or committed a tort in connection with the employee’s termination.”). And the wrongful-termination tort has a historical pedigree tracing back to the English common law. See American Law of Torts § 34.85; see also 1 William  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 73 Blackstone, Commentaries *413 (“[N]o master can put away his servant, or servant leave his master, either before or at the end of his term, without a quarter’s warning; unless upon reasonable cause to be allowed by a justice of the peace[.]”). Consider the individualized assessments necessary to prove the foreseeable harms for each employee. As the Board admitted, “aggrieved employees will . . . have to submit evidence to substantiate pecuniary harms for which they seek reimbursement” before the Board’s ALJs. Thryv, Inc., 372 NLRB No. 22, at 11. What then distinguishes these Board proceedings from individualized tort claims in federal or state court? Not much. Thus, both the Board’s actions and wrongful-termination tort “target the same basic conduct,” Jarkesy 603 U.S. at 125,—preventing wrongdoing in the employment context. See also Lewis v. Whirlpool Corp., 630 F.3d 484, 487–89 (6th Cir. 2011) (noting the overlap between wrongful- termination claims and the Board’s jurisdiction). Indeed, the Board’s jurisdiction so overlaps with the wrongful- termination tort that it may preempt federal or state tort actions. See San Diego Bldg. Trades Council v. Garmon, 359 U.S. 236, 245 (1959); Platt v. Jack Cooper Transp., Co., 959 F.2d 91, 94 (8th Cir. 1992); Lewis, 630 F.3d at 487. While not necessarily a perfect overlap, no “precise[] analog[ue]” is necessary under the Seventh Amendment. Tull v. United States, 481 U.S. 412, 421 (1987). Rather, the jury right “extends to statutory claims unknown to the common law, so long as the claims can be said to sound basically in tort, and [they] seek legal relief.” Monterey, 526 U.S. at 709 (simplified). So the basic “legal” nature of the claim here supports rejecting the Board’s expansive remedial powers. 74 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB Finally, the public rights exception doesn’t justify the Board’s broad assertion of remedial powers. The Court has reminded us that this exception is only an exception. Jarkesy, 603 U.S. at 131. After all, “[i]t has no textual basis in the Constitution.” Id. So “[e]ven with respect to matters that arguably fall within the scope of the ‘public rights’ doctrine, the presumption is in favor of Article III courts.” Id. at 132 (simplified). Thus, we don’t focus on whether an action “originate[s] in a newly fashioned regulatory scheme.” Id. at 133 (simplified). Rather, “what matters is the substance of the action, not where Congress has assigned it.” Id. at 134. And the Court has made clear that the public rights exception must remain a narrow one. When the Court has recognized a “public rights” exception, it is based on “centuries-old,” “background legal principles.” Id. at 131. Indeed, the Court has only recognized a few categories of administrative adjudications that fall within the exception: the collection of revenue; customs law; immigration law; relations with Indian tribes; the administration of public lands; and the granting of public benefits, such as payments to veterans, pensions, and patent rights. Id. at 129–30. On their face, these categories have little resemblance to traditional legal claims—they all involve interests that would not exist without the federal government. In contrast, in Jarkesy, the Court refused to expand the list to include administrative adjudications over conduct that resembles “common law fraud.” Id. at 134. Thus, courts should be reluctant to expand the exception beyond the enumerated historical categories. The Board’s new make-whole remedy is identical to traditional legal-claim remedies vindicating private rights and doesn’t fit within the public-rights exception. The  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 75 Board’s remedy goes beyond defending the public interest in federal labor policy and instead targets “the wrong done the individual employee,” which falls outside the Board’s authority when fashioning unfair labor practice remedies. Vaca v. Sipes, 386 U.S. 171, 182 n.8 (1967). So the award of consequential or foreseeable damages bears little relation to public rights, and the Board cannot escape this conclusion by merely calling it a “make-whole” or “equitable” remedy. See Jarkesy v. SEC, 34 F.4th 446, 457 (5th Cir. 2022) (“Congress cannot change the nature of a right, thereby circumventing the Seventh Amendment, by simply giving the keys to the SEC to do the vindicating.”). However appropriate a consequential-damages regime may be in the labor context, when an administrative agency strays into the realm of legal remedies, that’s a matter for Article III courts not administrative tribunals. And the Board is wrong to contend that the Court settled the Seventh Amendment question back in the 1930s. In Jones & Laughlin Steel Corporation, the Court concluded that the Seventh Amendment didn’t preclude the Board from ordering the “payment of wages for the time lost by the discharge”—in other words, back pay. 301 U.S. at 48. The Amendment wasn’t implicated, the Court said, because the ordered back pay was “incident to equitable relief,” even though the same “damages might have been recovered in an action at law.” Id. Key to the Court’s opinion, then, was that back pay was a form of equitable relief. Indeed, the Court has emphasized the equitable nature of the back-pay remedy. See Albemarle Paper Co. v. Moody, 422 U.S. 405, 415–418 (1975) (characterizing back pay awarded against employers under Title VII as equitable). Here, however, the Board seeks far greater remedial authorities. It doesn’t just seek damages “incident to equitable relief,” but it seeks 76 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB consequential or foreseeable damages associated with a “[s]uit at common law.” So Jones & Laughlin isn’t the end of the analysis when the Board imposes remedies far beyond back pay. Based on precedent since the 1930s, the Board’s award of consequential damages would contravene the Seventh Amendment’s right to a jury trial. To be clear, the Seventh Amendment doesn’t invalidate all Board remedial authorities to direct monetary relief. As limited by § 160(c)’s express authority to order “back pay,” the Board may act consistently with the Seventh Amendment. But when the Board strays from the text and seeks extra-statutory authorities, like the power to direct consequential or foreseeable damages, then the Seventh Amendment has something to say. We thus must read § 160(c) as precluding the type of monetary relief the Board seeks here. See Jennings, 583 U.S. at 286. II. The Board’s Merits Decision Was Wrong Even worse, we didn’t need to reach the remedy issue at all. Instead, the Board’s decision to conclude that Macy’s committed an unfair labor practice was arbitrary and capricious and unsupported by the evidence. The Board concluded that Macy’s committed an unfair labor practice under § 8(a)(1) and (3) of the Act by not reinstating the Union members after their offer to return to work and by locking them out without informing them of the terms to end the lockout. Macy’s, Inc., 372 NLRB No. 42, at 20. But this conflicts with the Act for two reasons. First, the Board was wrong to conclude that Macy’s offensive lockout was “inherently destructive” because it took two-business days to communicate its offer to end the lockout. Second, the  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 77 Board overlooked some key facts in deciding that Macy’s actions were not a proper defensive lockout. Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of the Act “make it an unfair labor practice for an employer ‘by discrimination in regard to hire or tenure of employment or any term or condition of employment to encourage or discourage membership in any labor organization.’” Fresh Fruit & Vegetable Workers Loc. 1096 v. NLRB, 539 F.3d 1089, 1096 (9th Cir. 2008) (quoting 29 U.S.C. § 158(a)(1), (3)). To find a violation of these provisions, “the relevant inquiry is whether or not the employer’s action likely discouraged union membership and was motivated by anti-union animus.” Id. So usually, evidence of discriminatory conduct and discriminatory intent are necessary. But this isn’t always the case. Sometimes conduct is so “inherently destructive,” that “improper motive” can be inferred. Id. We’ve described the framework for analyzing “inherently destructive” conduct as this: If employer conduct is “inherently destructive,” the Board may find an improper motive regardless of evidence of a legitimate business justification . . . . If, on the other hand, “the adverse effect of the discriminatory conduct on employee rights is ‘comparatively slight,’” and the employer establishes a legitimate and substantial business justification for its actions, there is 78 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB no violation of the Act without a finding of an actual anti-union motivation. Id. (citing NLRB v. Great Dane Trailers, Inc., 388 U.S. 26, 33 (1967)). Both the Board and Macy’s agree that this Great Dane framework governs this case. Establishing “inherently destructive” conduct is a high bar. It requires conduct that “carries with it an inference of unlawful intention so compelling that it is justifiable to disbelieve the employer’s protestations of innocent purpose.” Am. Ship Bldg. Co. v. NLRB, 380 U.S. 300, 311– 12 (1965) (emphasis added). The conduct must have “far reaching effects which would hinder future bargaining” and “creat[e] visible and continuing obstacles to the future exercise of employee rights.” Portland Willamette Co. v. NLRB, 534 F.2d 1331, 1334 (9th Cir. 1976) (emphasis added). In other words, the conduct must have “the natural tendency . . . to severely ‘discourage union membership while serving no significant employer interest.’” Fresh Fruit & Vegetable Workers Loc., 539 F.3d at 1097 (quoting Am. Ship Building, 380 U.S. at 312) (emphasis added). Thus, the effect of the conduct must be more than temporary or slight. It must significantly alter the bargaining relationship. In sum, there must be “no question that the employees were being punished for their union activities.” Id. (emphasis added). The Board hasn’t met that standard here. A. There’s nothing inherently problematic with the use of lockouts. Am. Ship Bldg., 380 U.S. at 308–313. Proper offensive lockouts may occur when an employer locks out employees “in support of legitimate bargaining demands.”  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 79 Boehringer Ingelheim Vetmedica, Inc., 350 NLRB 678, 679 (2007). The Board never found that Macy’s had anti-union animus in initiating its lockout and so the Board must show that Macy’s actions were “inherently destructive” to support its charge. But all the facts reveal that the delay in providing a new proposal at the time of the lockout had no “far reaching,” “continuing,” or “sever[e]” effect on collective bargaining. To the contrary, the lockout served a legitimate economic purpose. Let’s recap the facts from 2020: • On August 31, Macy’s gives its best and final offer to the Union. • On September 4, the Union’s members begin to strike. • On October 8, Macy’s informs the Union that its best and final offer will expire on October 15. • On October 15, Macy’s best and final offer expires. • On November 25, the Union presents a counter proposal to Macy’s. • On December 4, Macy’s rejects the Union’s counter proposal. That Friday evening, the Union unconditionally offers to return to work “immediately” in an email sent after hours on the East Coast. Macy’s asks the Union to hold off on returning to work and promises to respond by the close of business on Monday. The Union asks if “this mean[s] you are locking them out till Monday?” • On December 5–6, Macy’s reiterates its request for time to respond, noting the “administrative, logistical, and economic” challenges of reinstating employees on 80 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB short notice. The Union refuses to accommodate Macy’s and declares that its members will return to work unless they’re locked out. Macy’s again asks for time because “[t]hey have been out for 90+ days, and to think you can just flip a switch and have them back is not possible.” • On December 7, Macy’s notifies the Union it will not reinstate its members “until there is an agreement in place,” which is “in support of [its] bargaining position.” Macy’s proposes dates for new bargaining sessions, including a date on December 10. • On December 10, Macy’s presents a new collective bargaining agreement proposal to the Union. So the Union demanded to return to work within one business day on a Friday evening. Macy’s reasonably asked the Union to hold off on returning to work while it figured out its position over the weekend. On Monday, Macy’s told the Union that it was locking out the Union members in support of its bargaining position and notes that a new bargaining agreement must be reached before reinstatement. Two days later, Macy’s and the Union were back at the bargaining table with Macy’s presenting a new proposal. The Board decided that this two-day delay in informing the Union of its latest offer was an unfair labor practice. Indeed, the Board held that Macy’s failure to communicate a new offer by Monday morning (one business day) was an unfair labor practice. See Macy’s, Inc., 372 NLRB No. 42, at 20 (“the lockout was unlawful at its inception, on December 7”). But this is not even close to meeting the exacting standard of “inherently destructive” conduct.  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 81 We’ve already been skeptical of the need to immediately reinstate employees after an offer to return to work. In Fresh Fruit & Vegetable Workers Local, after a strike and 14-year long lockout, an employer offered to reinstate striking Union workers but delayed reinstatement for one month. 539 F.3d at 1093–94. The employer justified the delay by the need for the employees to give notice to their existing employers and to allow for a particular manager to train the returning employees. Id. at 1094. The Board thought that this delay was inherently destructive and ordered back pay. Id. at 1094–95. We rejected the Board’s conclusion. Id. at 1096. We explained that the one-month delay after a 14-year lockout did not meet the high bar for “inherently destructive” conduct. Id. at 1097. Given the “short” reinstatement delay “relative to the lockout period,” we concluded the delay couldn’t be viewed as “punishment for a protected activity.” Id. “After a fourteen-year lockout,” we said, “a delay of a few more weeks prior to reinstatement does not necessarily express anti-union animus beyond that expressed by the lockout itself.” Id. (emphasis added). Rather, the delay would be understood as the time “necessary and normal to accomplish reinstatement,” not as an attempt to “obstruct or discourage employees from exercising their statutory rights.” Id. Thus, we reversed the Board’s conclusion of a violation of the Act. See id. at 1100. As in Fresh Fruit, the Board didn’t consider the totality of the circumstances before concluding that Macy’s committed an unfair labor practice. The Board ruled that the lack of an immediate, clear, and complete proposal to the Union within one business day of the offer to return constituted “inherently destructive” conduct. But that’s wrong. After the Union engaged in a three-month strike, rejected Macy’s final offer, and then sought to jam Macy’s 82 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB with a Friday night return-to-work offer, Macy’s taking a mere two business days to formulate and communicate a new, detailed offer can’t be viewed as anti-union animus. Given the relatively short period in which Macy’s developed a new offer after the months-long strike, nothing shows that the minor delay in communicating its latest offer after the lockout was necessarily made to punish the Union for its protected activity or was necessarily an attempt to obstruct or discourage the employees’ union activity. Instead, the 48- hour delay could be viewed as the “necessary and normal” time to figure out Macy’s response to the Union’s unexpected return-to-work offer and to draw up a new proposal. See id. at 1097. Without any evidence of anti- union animus, the Board hasn’t shown how the short delay here had more than a “comparatively slight” impact on the Union under Great Dane Trailers, 388 U.S. at 33. Establishing a hard-and-fast rule that an employer must provide a “timely, clear, and complete offer” before engaging in an offensive lockout within one-business day was arbitrary and capricious. See Macy’s, Inc., 372 NLRB No. 42, at 1. Indeed, labor disputes often involve complex circumstances that can’t be resolved on the short fuse that the Board requires here. Under the Board’s arbitrary rule, Macy’s could have only responded two ways to the Union’s Friday-night offer: (1) immediately reinstate the workers and lose its bargaining position after the three-month strike, or (2) institute the offensive lockout but come up with a new offer essentially overnight. Nothing in the Act requires these grim choices. Well, couldn’t Macy’s have immediately revived its final offer to comply with these rules? Yes, but that would defeat the purpose of the “best and final” offer as a bargaining  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 83 tactic. Now, a union can decide whether an offer is a best and final one or not. All a union must do to resurrect an expired offer is make an unconditional offer to return to work on short notice before a weekend. But, what’s wrong with forcing Macy’s to reinstate the employees by Monday morning? First, this ignores the enormous logistical difficulties with returning dozens of striking employees to work over a weekend. Second, this would also weaken Macy’s bargaining position by decreasing the need for an agreement. Unless an employer shows anti-union animus, the Act doesn’t permit the Board to force a one-sided solution in a labor dispute. And nothing in the Board’s precedent supports its draconian ruling here. Start with Dayton Newspapers. In that case, an employer locked out several delivery drivers after a one-day strike. In re Dayton Newspapers, Inc., 339 NLRB 650, 650 (2003). Negotiations and the lockout continued for months. But, on December 23, the union made an unconditional offer to return to work. Id. at 651. Four days later, the employer rejected the offer and communicated that the union had to accept several “changed circumstances,” including unspecified “operational changes.” Id. The next day, the union agreed to the “changed circumstances,” although it noted that the “operational changes” condition may need further negotiations. Id. More than a month later, on February 4, the employer nonetheless rejected the union’s offer, suggesting that the union hadn’t accepted all the conditions of reinstatement. Id. at 652. The Board concluded that the employer engaged in an unfair labor practice in not reinstating the locked-out drivers because the employer failed to “clearly and fully set forth” the conditions of reinstatement. Id. at 656. In particular, the demand for 84 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB acceptance of “operational changes” was “unclear and changing” and became a “moving target.” Id. Under these conditions, the union couldn’t “intelligently evaluate its position and obtain reinstatement.” Id. The differences between Dayton Newspapers and this case are glaring. First off, notice that the negotiations over reinstating the drivers took place over weeks—not days or hours, as here. The Board never criticized the employer for taking too long to communicate its condition of reinstatement—it criticized the employer for not being clear on the conditions themselves. See id. at 656–58. In contrast, the Board here held that Macy’s failure to communicate a new offer by Monday morning—one business day later— was an unfair labor practice. See Macy’s, Inc., 372 NLRB No. 42, at 20. So the Board is punishing Macy’s for taking a total of 48 hours more to communicate its newest offer to end the lockout. Indeed, Board precedent requires parties to afford each other fair time to evaluate and respond to offers. In Alden Leeds, the Board concluded that giving a union “only one working day’s notice, in which to evaluate and understand [employer’s] uncertain, ambiguous, and confusing offer, vote on it and accept it, is clearly insufficient and not the ‘timely’ notice required by Board precedent.” 357 NLRB 84, 95 (2011). So the Board violates its own precedent to reach its desired outcome. If that’s not arbitrary and capricious, nothing is. We then just give the Board a blank check to do what it wants in the labor context. B. As if it weren’t enough, the Board gives us one final reason to deny the Board’s petition. Macy’s argues that it had good-faith concerns about the Union’s actions during the  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 85 strike that justified a defensive lockout. According to Macy’s, strikers orally abused its employees, attacked its customers, flouted COVID safety protocols, caused a sewage backup by blocking a drain outside its San Francisco store, and sabotaged its facilities. It was especially concerned about having the employees return to work given the upcoming holiday season, which accounts for much of the company’s profits. See Macy’s, Inc., 372 NLRB No. 42, at 20. The Board rejected Macy’s defensive lockout justification because it believed that the defensive lockout concern was simply a pretext to pressure the Union to accept the company’s offer. But that conclusion was arbitrary and capricious and unsupported by the record. To justify a defensive lockout, an employer need only be “reasonably concerned” about the employees’ actions. See Sociedad Espanola de Auxilio Mutuo y Beneficiencia, 342 NLRB 458, 462 (2004). This is a relatively low bar. While we must defer to the Board’s factual findings if they are supported by substantial evidence, we have a duty to correct when the “administrative agency has made an error of law.” NLRB v. Enter. Ass’n of Steam, Hot Water, Hydraulic Sprinkler, Pneumatic Tube, Ice Mach. and Gen. Pipefitters of N.Y., 429 U.S. 507, 522 n.9 (1977). Here, neither the ALJ nor the Board cited the “reasonably concerned” standard and only looked at whether Macy’s proved the incidents of misconduct by Union members. But that’s not the legal standard to justify a defensive lockout. All that’s necessary is that Macy’s show that it was “reasonably concerned” about the misconducted. Thus, we should have remanded on this basis alone. See id. Moreover, as Macy’s raised to the Board, the ALJ glossed over all the evidence of Macy’s “good faith” belief that the striking employees engaged in misconduct or 86 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB sabotage. Despite our deference to factual findings, the ALJ and the Board can’t ignore significant evidence contrary to its position. See Universal Camera Corp. v. NLRB, 340 U.S. 474, 488 (1951) (“The substantiality of evidence must take into account whatever in the record fairly detracts from its weight.”); Lakeland Health Care Assocs., LLC v. NLRB, 696 F.3d 1332, 1335 (11th Cir. 2012) (noting the Board “cannot ignore relevant evidence that detracts from its findings” (simplified)). Neither the ALJ nor the Board considered the fact that, before the lockout, Macy’s twice sought injunctive relief in state court against the Union. On November 20, Macy’s filed a motion for a preliminary injunction alleging causes of action against the Union for nuisance, trespass, false imprisonment, assault, battery, and intentional interference with prospective economic relations. Before the lockout, the state court denied the request without prejudice because Macy’s had not yet proven irreparable harm. But the state court did not appear to rule on the facts of Macy’s allegation. By going to state court on the very same concerns as raised for the defensive lockout, Macy’s showed it was “reasonably concerned” with the Union members’ actions. Indeed, filing for a false or bad-faith injunction would have subjected Macy’s to judicial sanctions. Yet the ALJ and the Board never said why this evidence wasn’t sufficient to prove Macy’s defensive reasons. By not accounting for these significant facts, the ALJ and the Board acted arbitrarily, capriciously, and without support. III. Let’s recap the Board’s extraordinary actions here. After a lengthy and acrimonious strike, the Union made an unconditional offer to return to work—expecting to be  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 87 accommodated within one business day. On the next workday, Macy’s responded that it was locking out the striking employees in support of its bargaining position. True, Macy’s didn’t have an offer on the table then, but that’s not unexpected given that the Union had rejected its best and final offer. In any case, Macy’s put together a new offer two days later. Despite these efforts, the Board determined that Macy’s committed an unfair labor practice. If this wasn’t unusual enough, the Board then imposed extraordinary damages—making Macy’s pay for “all direct or foreseeable harms” that occurred to the employees since the lockout. Until recently, the Board never claimed the authority to order consequential damages as here. And the Board ignores the obvious statutory and constitutional roadblocks to this newly claimed authority. The majority largely ignores these concerns and just proclaims that we must defer to the Board because it is at the “zenith” of its discretion. That’s incorrect. The law and the Constitution are supreme here— not the bureaucrats of the Board. We should not have condoned this government overreach. I respectfully dissent. 88 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB R. NELSON, Circuit Judge, with whom CALLAHAN, IKUTA, LEE, BUMATAY, and VANDYKE, Circuit Judges, join, dissenting from the denial of rehearing en banc: The panel majority erred in affirming the NLRB’s unprecedented award of consequential Thryv damages, which are unauthorized by statute and forbidden by the Seventh Amendment. Their decision conflicts with every other circuit court and judge to have considered this question. Because these errors will have serious long-term implications, we should have reheard this case en banc to correct them. I respectfully dissent. I A This case arose from a lengthy labor dispute between Macy’s Inc. and the International Union of Operating Engineers, Local 39 (Union), which represents some of Macy’s engineers and craftsmen. Macy’s and the Union had a collective bargaining agreement which covered sixty to seventy employees. The most recent bargaining agreement ended on August 31, 2020. After two months and twelve bargaining sessions, Macy’s presented the Union with its final offer on August 31. The Union rejected the offer and went on a three-month strike accompanied by a picketing offensive at Macy’s flagship San Francisco location. The day before Thanksgiving, a month after the final offer expired, the Union sent a new proposal. Macy’s rejected this proposal on Friday, December 4. That same afternoon, just before the close of business, the Union made “an unconditional offer to return our members to work immediately.” On Sunday, December 6, the Union refused to give Macy’s an extension until Monday to reassess before  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 89 reinstating the employees. On Monday, Union members showed up to work and were turned away (as Macy’s had conveyed would happen). The parties agreed to meet three days later, when Macy’s presented the Union with a new offer. The parties negotiated but could not agree to terms. Five years later, the Union members remain locked out. The Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) found that Macy’s committed an unfair business practice by locking out Union members after the Union sent its Friday afternoon offer to return to work and refused to wait until Monday for a response. The ALJ ordered Macy’s to make the Union members whole. Macys, Inc., 372 NLRB No. 42, at 23 (2023). Macy’s appealed the ALJ’s determination to the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB). The NLRB affirmed the ALJ’s decision on the merits but rejected the ALJ’s remedy because it didn’t go far enough. The Board “amended the make-whole remedy and modified the judge’s recommended order to provide” consequential damages called a Thryv remedy. Id. at 1 n.2. This remedy extends to all foreseeable pecuniary harms of an unfair labor practice, including, but not limited to, search-for-work expenses, out-of-pocket medical expenses, credit card debt, transportation, childcare costs, “other costs simply in order to make ends meet,” and anything else the Board can think of. Thryv, Inc., 372 NLRB No. 22, at 15 (2022), order vacated in part, 102 F.4th 727 (5th Cir. 2024). So Macy’s became liable for any inconvenience Union members faced from being unemployed for five years and counting. B The panel majority affirmed the NLRB. Int’l Union of Operating Eng’rs, Stationary Eng’rs, Loc. 39 v. NLRB, 127 90 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB F.4th 58, 68 (9th Cir. 2025); Amended Opinion at 9. 1 It created a novel and legally dubious rule to uphold the merits of the NLRB’s unfair labor practice finding. And it split with the Third Circuit to uphold the Thryv remedy. The panel majority acknowledged that to succeed on the merits, the Union had to show that Macy’s actions were “inherently destructive.” Am. Op. at 20 (discussing the framework laid out in NLRB v. Great Dane Trailers, Inc., 388 U.S. 26, 33–34 (1967)). But rather than apply that framework, the majority adopted a per se rule that any lockout unaccompanied by a concrete bargaining proposal is inherently destructive. Id. at 21. The panel majority also erred in its analysis of Thryv remedies. Macy’s challenged the remedies on several grounds, including that they were not statutorily authorized and violated the Seventh Amendment right to a jury trial. The majority held that the statutory and constitutional challenges had not been administratively exhausted, and that the constitutional challenge had been forfeited. See id. at 35 n.10. But the majority then addressed the merits of both these issues, making incorrect legal conclusions on issues it should not have reached. The panel majority held that the NLRB was statutorily authorized to grant Thryv remedies. 2 This conflicts with 1 After an en banc vote was requested, the panel majority amended its opinion, filed concurrently with the Order Denying Rehearing En Banc. 2 The panel majority held that Macy’s “neither properly challenged Thryv’s retroactivity or the Seventh Amendment’s application to this case.” Am. Op. at 48. In a nearly identical posture, the Tenth Circuit refused to address the merits of the same statutory challenge. See 3484, Inc. v. NLRB, 137 F.4th 1093, 1115–16 (10th Cir. 2025) (finding  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 91 NLRB v. Starbucks Corp., 125 F.4th 78 (3d Cir. 2024). See Am. Op. at 39 n.12. Unlike the Third Circuit, the panel majority held that the NLRB’s order of compensation for “foreseeable pecuniary harms incurred as a result of the unlawful lockout” does not exceed the Board’s authority under the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA). Id. at 46. The panel majority also concluded that Thryv remedies “vindicate[] a public right,” id. at 38, functionally deciding the key Seventh Amendment issue that was forfeited. See Stern v. Marshall, 564 U.S. 462, 488–89 (2011) (“[T]here are matters, involving public rights, which may be presented in such form that the judicial power is capable of acting on them, and which are susceptible of judicial determination, but which congress may or may not bring within the cognizance of the courts of the United States” (quoting Murray’s Lessee v. Hoboken Land & Improvement Co., 59 U.S. 272, 284 (1856)). Judge Bumatay dissented. On the unfair labor practice claim, he explained that the facts did not support an inherently destructive finding, the cases the NLRB relied on were materially distinguishable, and the NLRB ignored our precedent in Fresh Fruit & Vegetable Workers Loc. 1096 v. NLRB, 539 F.3d 1089, 1097 (9th Cir. 2008). Amended Dissent at 80–84. He also highlighted that the majority created a circuit split when it found Thryv remedies within the NLRB’s statutory authority. Id. at 52–53. He posited that these remedies are consequential damages, meaning they constitute legal relief outside the Board’s remedial challenge to Thryv remedy unexhausted and not addressing statutory argument because “the Board ha[d] merely stated a general proposition” when it ordered Thryv remedies and employer could later challenge “any remedy ultimately imposed”). 92 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB discretion. Id. at 54–55. He noted that Thryv remedies diverge from Supreme Court precedent interpreting nearly identical statutory language addressing a remedial scheme modeled after the NLRA. Id. at 65–66 (discussing United States v. Burke, 504 U.S. 229, 237–40, 240 n.10 (1992)). Judge Bumatay also explained that under SEC v. Jarkesy, 603 U.S. 109 (2024), Macy’s was entitled to a Seventh Amendment jury trial because Thryv remedies are a punitive or consequential legal remedy. Am. Dissent at 67–76. And an unfair labor practice claim is closely related to the common-law tort of wrongful termination. See Jarkesy, 603 U.S. at 125. Judge Bumatay also concluded that Thryv remedies do not vindicate a public right. Am. Dissent at 61– 62. II The panel majority erred on three crucial questions. First, the NLRB’s finding of unfair labor practices conflicts with Supreme Court and circuit precedent. Moreover, contrary to the panel majority’s conclusion, the NLRB’s imposition of consequential Thryv damages is neither authorized under the NLRA nor permissible under the Seventh Amendment. Every Court of Appeals judge to consider the Thryv remedies—other than the panel majority—has reached the correct conclusion. We created a circuit split for no reason. A The NLRB’s merits decision summarily affirming the ALJ on the unfair labor practice claim conflicts with Great Dane, 388 U.S. at 34, and our precedent in Fresh Fruit, 539 F.3d at 1097. The panel majority overlooked the case-by- case assessment an inherently destructive finding requires.  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 93 See Fresh Fruit, 539 F.3d at 1097; see also Loc. 15, Int’l Bhd. of Elec. Workers, AFL-CIO v. NLRB, 429 F.3d 651, 656–61 (7th Cir. 2005); Loc. 702, Int’l Bhd. of Elec. Workers, AFL-CIO v. NLRB, 215 F.3d 11, 16–17 (D.C. Cir. 2000); see also In re Dayton Newspapers, Inc., 339 NLRB 650, 664 (2003), aff’d in part, rev’d in part, Dayton Newspapers, Inc. v. NLRB, 402 F.3d 651 (6th Cir. 2005). Consider the facts. Macy’s offered a counterproposal three workdays after an unexpected offer to return to work and two days after announcing a lockout after a three-month strike. This does not fit the “inherently destructive” standard. See Am. Dissent at 77–78. The panel majority’s holding to the contrary departs from that analysis and should have been reversed en banc. B As to the remedies, the panel majority approved the NLRB’s imposition of Thryv remedies to make the Union members whole. Thryv remedies represent an extraordinary power grab. The NLRA does not authorize the NLRB to issue them, they conflict with the Seventh Amendment, and no judge but those on the panel majority have blessed them. 1 “The powers of the Board as well as the restrictions upon it must be drawn from § 10(c)” of the NLRA. Phelps Dodge Corp. v. NLRB, 313 U.S. 177, 187–88 (1941). Section 10(c) confines the NLRB’s remedial authority to “order[s] requiring such person to cease and desist from such unfair labor practice, and to take such affirmative action including reinstatement of employees with or without back pay, as will effectuate the policies of” the NLRA. 29 U.S.C. § 160(c). The NLRB’s remedial discretion “is expressly limited by the requirement that its orders ‘effectuate the policies’” of the 94 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB NLRA. Sure-Tan, Inc. v. NLRB, 467 U.S. 883, 900 (1984) (quotation omitted). “Congress did not establish a general scheme authorizing the Board to award full compensatory damages for injuries caused by wrongful conduct.” UAW v. Russell, 356 U.S. 634, 643 (1958). The NLRB lacks discretion to impose a remedy that “veers from remedial to punitive.” 3484, Inc. v. NLRB, 137 F.4th 1093, 1122 (10th Cir. 2025) (Eid, J., concurring in part and dissenting in part) (quotation omitted). Even back pay— relief directly authorized by the NLRA—must be “sufficiently tailored to expunge only the actual, and not merely the speculative, consequences of the unfair labor practice.” Sure-Tan, 467 U.S. at 900. Remedies may only compensate employees for “actual losses.” Phelps Dodge, 313 U.S. at 198. And the Board’s remedial authority is confined to equitable, not legal relief. Section 10(c) authorizes only two forms of relief: (1) orders to “cease and desist” unfair labor practices and (2) “affirmative action including reinstatement of employees with or without back pay.” 29 U.S.C. § 160(c). Cease and desist authority and the authority to order affirmative action sound in equity (as shown by the examples of reinstatement and reinstatement with back pay). “[T]he right to restore to a man employment which was wrongfully denied [to] him” is a form of “equitable relief.” Phelps Dodge, 313 U.S. at 188. And backpay is also “an equitable remedy, a form of restitution.” Curtis v. Loether, 415 U.S. 189, 197 (1974); see also NLRB v. Jones & Laughlin Steel Corp., 301 U.S. 1, 48 (1937) (“[P]ayment of wages for the time lost by the discharge . . . is an incident to equitable relief”).  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 95 Section 10(c)’s remedies are all equitable in nature. That the NLRA “‘empowers the Board to order entities to cease and desist and to take affirmative action’—without authorizing any other type of remedy—indicates that the statute only grants the Board the authority to order equitable remedies.” 3484, 137 F.4th at 1122 (Eid, J., concurring in part and dissenting in part) (cleaned up). Until recently, the NLRB respected these boundaries. The NLRB held that it “does not award tort remedies,” and that “[a]ny recompense awarded a discriminatee is not for [ ] injuries suffered, but rather a necessary remedy to vindicate the purposes of the Act.” Freeman Decorating Co., 288 NLRB No. 139, at 1 n.2 (1988). And where it granted monetary relief exceeding back pay, that relief was “closely tied to the equitable remedy of backpay” and was thus distinct from consequential or compensatory relief. Starbucks, 125 F.4th at 96 (collecting examples of monetary relief that “fell under the umbrella of a backpay award”). These too were therefore “an incident to equitable relief.” Jones & Laughlin, 301 U.S. at 48; see Russell, 356 U.S. at 645 (back pay “may incident[al]ly provide some compensatory relief” but does not “constitute an exclusive pattern of money damages for private injuries”). Thus, for decades, the NLRB only ordered equitable relief and monetary relief intertwined with back pay, not foreseeable consequential damages more appropriate in tort actions. Things abruptly changed in 2022. See generally Thryv, 372 NLRB No. 22. In Thryv, the NLRB granted itself the power to issue compensatory or consequential damages. 3 3 Implicitly recognizing that this is beyond its authority, the NLRB in Thryv goes to great lengths to deny that this is what it is doing. 372 96 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB According to the NLRB, it is the Board’s obligation to make sure employees are “fully compensated” for “pecuniary harms” that were “direct or foreseeable consequences of [an] unfair labor practice.” Id. at 15. From now on, “in all cases in which [its] standard remedy would include an order for make-whole relief, the Board will expressly order that the respondent compensate affected employees for all direct or foreseeable pecuniary harms suffered as a result of the respondent’s unfair labor practice.” Id. at 9 (emphasis in original). The only limit to what falls under the NLRB’s description is its imagination. The NLRB declined to “enumerate all the pecuniary harms that may be considered direct or foreseeable.” Id. at 20. But these could extend to “significant financial costs, such as out-of-pocket medical expenses, credit card debt, or other costs simply in order to make ends meet.” Id. at 15. So too “penalties” for “early withdrawals from [a] retirement account,” “loan or mortgage payments,” and “transportation or childcare costs.” Id. And “[t]he Board’s General Counsel added even more costs to the list: unreimbursed tuition payments, job search costs, day care costs, specialty tool costs, utility disconnection/reconnection fees, relocation/moving costs, legal representation costs in eviction proceedings, and NLRB No. 22, at 13–14 (distinguishing “foreseeable damages” from “consequential damages” because the latter is a “term of art.”). But calling a Thryv remedy “foreseeable damages” “doesn’t change its legal nature—it’s still consequential damages no matter how it’s spun.” Am. Dissent at 58–59. And the Union recognized the NLRB’s remedy for what it was, arguing below that “[t]he remedy should require the payment of consequential damages for all the employees who were locked out.” (emphasis added).  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 97 expenses resulting from a change in immigration status.” Am. Dissent at 57–58 (citation omitted). Thryv remedies are not business as usual at the NLRB. Even the Union admits that Thryv is “one of the most controversial decisions of the Biden Board.” The NLRB itself was split on the issue. Two Board members dissented when the Board sanctioned Thryv remedies. They correctly explained that Thryv remedies “would permit recovery for any losses indirectly caused by an unfair labor practice, regardless of how long the chain of causation may stretch from unfair labor practice to loss, whenever the loss is found to be foreseeable.” Thryv, 372 NLRB No. 22, at 25 (Kaplan & Ring, concurring in part and dissenting in part). Doing so, the dissenters noted, “opens the door to awards of speculative damages that go beyond the Board’s remedial authority.” Id. Thryv remedies are legal, not equitable. They are money damages, “the prototypical common law remedy.” Jarkesy, 603 U.S. at 123; Am. Dissent at 71 (explaining how Thryv remedies are punitive damages). While some equitable remedies—restitution, disgorgement, and back pay—require money to change hands, Thryv damages are uniquely legal. See, e.g., Starbucks, 125 F.4th at 96 (discussing Virginia Elec. & Power Co. v. NLRB, 319 U.S. 533, 540–41 (1943)). Thryv damages measure “what has the owner lost, not what has the taker gained.” City of Monterey v. Del Monte Dunes at Monterey, Ltd., 526 U.S. 687, 710 (1999) (quotation omitted) (distinguishing money damages at law from “equitable restitution and other monetary remedies available in equity”). Thryv remedies thus fall outside the NLRB’s statutory authority. See Starbucks, 125 F.4th at 94. 98 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB The panel majority, by affirming Thyrv remedies, allows the NLRB to award quintessential tort remedies. See Damages, Black’s Law Dictionary (12th ed. 2024) (defining “common-law damages” as “[a] court-ordered monetary award intended to return an injured party, as nearly as possible, to the position that party occupied before suffering harm”). Worse, as the dissenting NLRB members warned, Thryv remedies “go well beyond tort law” because they are not limited by proximate cause—just foreseeability. Thryv, 372 NLRB No. 22, at 27. Through Thryv remedies, the NLRB has granted itself power greater than courts of law, effectively adjudicating private disputes, despite the statutory restrictions on its authority to do so. 2 Basic principles of statutory interpretation show that Thryv remedies exceed the NLRB’s statutory authority. Thryv remedies make little textual sense. The purported textual hook for Thryv’s wide-ranging consequential damages is § 160(c), which allows the NLRB to order “such affirmative action including reinstatement of employees with or without back pay.” 29 U.S.C. § 160(c). But “back pay” means pay unpaid but due. Am. Dissent at 63 (citing dictionary defining “back pay” at or near passage of the NLRA). The text does not support the NLRB’s assertion that it can order consequential damages. And through the Taft-Hartley amendments, Congress made clear that the monetary remuneration available was limited to back pay, and not consequential damages. See Labor Management Relations Act of 1947, Pub. L. No. 80- 101, 101, 61 Stat. 136, 147. After the amendment, § 160(c) reads, “No order of the Board shall require the reinstatement of any individual as an employee who has been suspended  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 99 or discharged, or the payment to him of any back pay, if such individual was suspended or discharged for cause.” § 160(c) (emphasis added). Under the panel majority’s reading, such an employee could still receive consequential damages, which were lurking in the background as an available remedy until Thryv brought them out of the shadows. That is an atextual and absurd result. Congress did not give the NLRB such expansive remedial power. Congress knows how to grant agencies the power to impose legal remedies. See 42 U.S.C. § 3613(c)(1) (allowing courts to award “actual and punitive damages” for Fair Housing Act violations); 29 U.S.C. § 2617(a)(1)(A)(i)(II) (in some cases, allowing recovery for “any actual monetary losses sustained by the employee as a direct result of” a Family and Medical Leave Act violation, including “the cost of providing care”); see also Burke, 504 U.S. at 240 (comparing remedial schemes under Title VII and other acts to understand scope of remedy). And it declined to grant the NLRB this power. Finally, Supreme Court precedent raises serious doubts about the legitimacy of Thryv remedies. In Burke, the Supreme Court addressed Title VII’s nearly identical language, which empowered a court to “order such affirmative action as may be appropriate, which may include, but is not limited to, reinstatement or hiring of employees, with or without back pay.” 504 U.S. at 238 (quoting 42 U.S.C. § 2000e-5(g)(1)). The Court noted that Title VII’s “remedial scheme was expressly modeled on the backpay provision of the National Labor Relations Act.” Id. at 240 n.10. Despite this scheme also having a “make whole” function, like the NLRA, Albemarle Paper Co. v. Moody, 422 U.S. 405, 419–20 (1975), the Court found that Title VII’s remedial provision did not “recompense Title VII 100 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB plaintiffs for anything beyond the wages properly due [to] them,” including for “any of the other traditional harms associated with personal injury, such as pain and suffering, emotional distress, harm to reputation, or other consequential damages (e.g., a ruined credit rating),” Burke, 504 U.S. at 239–41. The panel majority ignores what Burke represents—that the Supreme Court has construed nearly identical language to bar relief analogous to Thryv remedies. Under Burke, Title VII and the NLRA do not support consequential (personalized) damages, such as “a ruined credit rating.” Id. at 239. The panel majority posits that both Title VII and the NLRA allow for “make whole” relief. Am. Op. at 43–45 (quoting Bowe v. Colgate-Palmolive Co., 416 F.2d 711, 720 (7th Cir. 1969)). But just as in Title VII, the NLRA must be construed to be limited to “backpay awards and injunctive relief, to the wage and employment positions they would have occupied absent the unlawful” actions. Burke, 504 U.S. at 239. And Thryv remedies have not fared well in the circuit courts. The Fifth Circuit vacated and remanded Thryv itself. 102 F.4th at 737. The Fifth Circuit disagreed with Thryv on the merits, so it didn’t address the remedy. Id. But it described the remedy as “a novel, consequential-damages- like labor law remedy.” Id. The Tenth Circuit concluded similarly. See 3484, 137 F.4th 1093. While the Tenth Circuit found that an employer’s challenge to the Thryv remedy was not administratively exhausted, one judge addressed the remedy. See id. at 1121–27 (Eid, J., concurring in part and dissenting in part). In her view, the Thryv remedy “exceeds the Board’s statutory authority under the NLRA” for many reasons,  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 101 including that the remedies “look[] like something out of a torts treatise” and “fit[] squarely within the bedrock definition of compensatory and consequential damages.” Id. at 1125–27. In Starbucks, the Third Circuit held that the NLRB’s ordering of compensation for “foreseeable pecuniary harms incurred as a result of the unlawful adverse actions . . . exceeds the Board’s authority under the NLRA.” 125 F.4th at 94. On the other hand, the panel majority holds that the NLRB’s ordering of compensation for “foreseeable pecuniary harms incurred as a result of the unlawful lockout” does not exceed the Board’s authority under the NLRA. Am. Op. at 46. The panel majority’s holding creates a circuit split with the Third Circuit. The panel majority downplays the split, suggesting that any make-whole relief must be equitable in nature. Id. at 39 n.12. But it misses the mark as to the key difference causing the circuit split—whether compensation for foreseeable pecuniary harm is equitable. The Third Circuit, posed with the same question, correctly held that compensation for foreseeable pecuniary harm was not equitable. Starbucks, 125 F.4th at 97. The majority incorrectly held that it was. Am. Op. at 38–42. Every circuit judge—other than the panel majority—to address the NLRB’s authority to impose Thryv remedies has suggested or held that such remedies are beyond the NLRB’s statutory authority. See Am. Op. at 48 (panel majority admitting that “the partial dissent raises potentially significant points about the scope of make-whole relief under Thryv”). Thryv remedies are legal damages outside the scope of the NLRB’s statutory authority. See Starbucks, 125 F.4th at 94; 3484, 137 F.4th at 1127 (Eid, J., concurring 102 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB in part and dissenting in part) (finding Thryv remedies outside scope of the NLRA “avoids the many untold constitutional concerns”). We should have reheard this case en banc and followed the Third Circuit’s holding that the NLRB is not authorized to order compensation for foreseeable pecuniary harm untethered from the equitable relief of backpay. Instead, we are left with an opinion unsupported by the text of the NLRA. C Thryv and the panel majority also run roughshod over Macy’s Seventh Amendment rights. If there was any doubt regarding the scope of the NLRB’s remedial authority, the NLRA should be construed to avoid constitutional infirmity. The panel majority’s authorization of Thryv remedies raises serious constitutional concerns. Under the Seventh Amendment, “the right of trial by jury shall be preserved” “[i]n Suits at common law.” U.S. Const. amend. VII. Jarkesy governs how we analyze the Seventh Amendment’s command. 603 U.S. at 121–27. In Jarkesy, the Court held that the right to a jury trial applies to all suits “which are not of equity or admiralty jurisdiction, whatever may be the peculiar form which they may assume.” Id. at 122 (quotation omitted). If an action is legal in nature, the Seventh Amendment applies. There’s one exception: if the claim vindicates a “public right.” Id. at 120. To determine whether the suit is legal in nature, we consider both “the cause of action and the remedy it provides.” Id. at 123. The remedy is “the ‘more important’ consideration.” Id. (quoting Tull v. United States, 481 U.S. 412, 421 (1987)). Whether a claim “is statutory in  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 103 nature is immaterial to this analysis.” Id. at 122 (citing Tull, 481 U.S. at 414–15). As shown above, Thryv remedies are legal in nature. See supra § II.B.1. They are consequential money damages and the Seventh Amendment guarantees Macy’s the right to a jury trial before they may be awarded. “The close relationship between” an unfair labor practice and common law causes of action “confirm[]” that suits for Thyrv remedies are suits at common law for purposes of the Seventh Amendment. Jarkesy, 603 U.S. at 125. The nature of the remedy is independently sufficient to implicate the Seventh Amendment. See id. at 123 (nature of remedy “the ‘more important’ consideration” and “all but dispositive” (quotation omitted)). But four things about unfair labor practice claims establish that this remedy is quintessentially legal: (1) California recognizes “a tort cause of action for wrongful terminations that violate public policy,” (2) wrongful termination is itself a tort with “a historical pedigree tracing back to the English common law,” (3) “the individualized assessments necessary to prove the foreseeable harm for each employee” reflect the tortious nature of the claim, and (4) wrongful termination and the NLRB’s jurisdiction “so overlap[] . . . that it may preempt federal or state tort actions.” Am. Dissent at 72–73 (quotations omitted). Thus, unless the public rights exception applies, the panel majority’s Thryv remedy violates the Seventh Amendment. And the public rights exception does not apply. Under Jarkesy, the public rights exception is just that—an exception. See 603 U.S. at 131. Courts must pay “close attention to the basis for each asserted application of the doctrine,” otherwise “the exception would swallow the rule.” Id. In fact, “even with respect to matters that arguably fall within the scope of the ‘public rights’ doctrine, the 104 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB presumption is in favor of Article III courts.” Id. at 132 (cleaned up and quotation omitted). Nor does the NLRB’s newfound power to levy consequential damages against individuals reflect any of the reasons why the Court found the public rights exception implicated in the past. Id. at 128–32 (discussing the reasons for past public rights exceptions). Those reasons included “unbroken tradition—long predating the founding,” Congress’s “plenary power over immigration,” and areas of law where “political branches had traditionally held exclusive power.” Id. at 128–30 (citing Murray’s Lessee v. Hoboken Land & Improvement Co., 59 U.S. 272 (1856), Oceanic Steam Navigation Co. v. Stranahan, 214 U.S. 320 (1909), and Ex parte Bakelite Corp., 279 U.S. 438 (1929)). Add to these “other historic categories of adjudications [that] fall within the exception, including relations with Indian tribes, the administration of public lands, and the granting of public benefits such as payments to veterans, pensions, and patent rights.” Id. at 130 (citations omitted). The political branches have never held exclusive control over the adjudication of legal disputes. The panel majority’s Thryv damages holding thus contravenes Jarkesy because these damages do not vindicate a public right. Jarkesy confirms that a private right is implicated here. Jarkesy deemed it enough that the matter was “from [its] nature subject to ‘a suit at common law’” and that the suits were not “inseparable” from the relevant statutory regime. Id. at 133–34 (quotation omitted). The same is true of the consequential damages that the panel majority blessed. As discussed, both the cause of action and remedy echo the common law. And the remedy allocates the cost of an allegedly wrongful act from the  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 105 individual employees to Macy’s, making the employees “whole.” Thryv remedies, like the make-whole relief approved by the panel majority, fall outside the exception. That the remedy is severable from the merits proceeding emphasizes this conclusion. Determining whether one’s personal pecuniary harms were foreseeable consequences of a defendant’s actions and remedying those harms is historically rooted in law, not equity. See Hadley v. Baxendale, 9 Exch. 341, 156 Eng. Rep. 145 (1854) (assessing foreseeability of damages for failing to deliver crank shaft to mill per contract); see also Thryv, 372 NLRB No. 22, at 27 (Kaplan & Ring, concurring in part and dissenting in part) (“‘[F]oreseeability’ is a central element of tort law” and “[a]ny attempt to address tort claims in a Board proceeding obviously runs headlong into the Seventh Amendment’s guarantee of the right to have such claims tried before a jury.”). This remedy is “made of ‘the stuff of the traditional actions at common law tried by the courts at Westminster.’” Jarkesy, 603 U.S. at 128 (quotation omitted). The panel majority did not need to reach this merits decision. On the one hand, they claim that because Macy’s forfeited its Seventh Amendment claim, they decline “to entertain this argument.” Am. Op. at 35 n.10. But on the other, they hold that Thryv remedies “vindicate[] a public right,” id. at 38, which necessarily implicates the merits of the Seventh Amendment argument. It is infirm to decide the merits of a forfeited argument and then decide the merits wrongly. Nor are the NLRB’s remedial proceedings inseparable from the NLRA’s regulatory scheme. The compliance hearings over damages, Thryv, 372 NLRB No. 22, at 18, are neither “highly interdependent” nor “require coordination” 106 INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB with the merits proceeding, Jarkesy, 603 U.S. at 133. Liability for unfair labor practices can be found in one proceeding. Employers can “challenge . . . direct or foreseeable damages” and employees can “submit evidence to substantiate pecuniary harms for which they seek reimbursement” in “the compliance hearing.” Thryv, 372 NLRB No. 22, at 18. The NLRB already splits merits and compliance proceedings, and the Seventh Amendment requires that Macy’s have the option of trying the latter before a jury. The panel majority deprives Macy’s of its Seventh Amendment right to a jury trial. It found that any pecuniary damages seeking to make employees whole are an “incident” to equitable relief and therefore outside the scope of the Seventh Amendment. Am. Op. at 37 n.11 (quoting Jones & Laughlin, 301 U.S. at 48). By blessing the NLRB’s actions, the panel majority undermines a right our Founders considered “the very palladium of free government.” THE FEDERALIST No. 83 (Alexander Hamilton). Jones & Laughlin cannot bear the weight the panel majority placed on it. See Am. Dissent at 75–76. There, the Court addressed an employer’s challenge to an NLRB order requiring reinstatement and back pay—a remedy directly authorized by the statute. That back pay was “incident to equitable relief[.]” Jones & Laughlin, 301 U.S. at 48. The Court has since emphasized the equitable nature of back pay, supra § II.B.1; see also Albemarle Paper, 422 U.S. at 416– 17 (“district courts enjoy[] the ‘historic power of equity’ to award lost wages” under Fair Labor Standards Act (quotation omitted)). The panel majority erroneously extended Jones & Laughlin and held that any pecuniary renumeration the NLRB orders is outside the Seventh Amendment if aimed to make an employee whole.  INT’L UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS V. NLRB 107 Under Jarkesy, the panel majority’s approval of a broad exemption from the Seventh Amendment cannot stand. The remedial proceedings are highly individualized and can sensibly proceed separately without depriving Macy’s of its Seventh Amendment rights and without threatening the statutory framework within which the NLRB operates. Thryv remedies do not vindicate a public right; the panel majority wrongfully denied Macy’s its Seventh Amendment right to a jury. III The majority opinion is wrong. It has created an unnecessary circuit split by blessing the NLRB with unprecedented power beyond its statutory authority. It also undermines the Seventh Amendment right to a jury. The jury trial is “the glory of the English Law” and “every encroachment upon it” should be “watched with great jealousy.” Jarkesy, 603 U.S. at 121–22 (quotations omitted). Because I refuse to condone such an encroachment, I respectfully dissent.