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No. 9451405
United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
Marc Thielman v. Lavonne Griffin-Valade
No. 9451405 · Decided December 12, 2023
No. 9451405·Ninth Circuit · 2023·
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Case Details
Court
United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
Decided
December 12, 2023
Citation
No. 9451405
Disposition
See opinion text.
Full Opinion
NOT FOR PUBLICATION FILED
UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS DEC 12 2023
MOLLY C. DWYER, CLERK
U.S. COURT OF APPEALS
FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
MARC THIELMAN; et al., No. 23-35452
Plaintiffs-Appellants, D.C. No. 3:22-cv-01516-SB
v.
MEMORANDUM*
LAVONNE GRIFFIN-VALADE, in her
official capacity as Oregon Secretary of
State; et al.,
Defendants-Appellees.
Appeal from the United States District Court
for the District of Oregon
Stacie F. Beckerman, Magistrate Judge, Presiding
Submitted December 6, 2023 **
Portland, Oregon
Before: BERZON, NGUYEN, and MILLER, Circuit Judges.
Plaintiffs filed this action on behalf of themselves and all others similarly
situated against the Oregon Secretary of State and twelve Oregon counties,
challenging the constitutionality of Oregon’s computerized vote tabulation and vote-
* This disposition is not appropriate for publication and is not precedent
except as provided by Ninth Circuit Rule 36-3.
** The panel unanimously concludes this case is suitable for decision
without oral argument. See Fed. R. App. P. 34(a)(2).
by-mail systems. The district court granted Defendants’ motion to dismiss for lack
of subject-matter jurisdiction, finding that Plaintiffs failed to adequately plead a
cognizable injury-in-fact. We review de novo dismissals for lack of subject-matter
jurisdiction. Sec. & Exch. Comm’n v. World Cap. Mkt., Inc., 864 F.3d 996, 1003
(9th Cir. 2017). We affirm.
This Court recently considered and rejected claims similar to those Plaintiffs
assert here. See Lake v. Fontes, 83 F.4th 1199 (9th Cir. 2023). Plaintiffs allege that
they are injured by “a lack of confidence in the integrity of the election system.” 1
But that alleged injury represents nothing more than the “kind of speculation that
stretches the concept of imminence beyond its purpose.” Lake, 83 F.4th at 1204
(quotation marks omitted). Plaintiffs do not allege that their votes were not counted,
nor do they identify with sufficient particularity how any given election in Oregon
was fraudulently manipulated through the vote-by-mail or computerized tabulation
systems. Indeed, Plaintiffs concede that they do not know whether Oregon elections
are fraudulently manipulated at all. Plaintiffs allege only that they suffer a “crisis of
confidence” in Oregon’s voting systems, which is the same “speculative” grievance
that we found insufficient to confer standing in Lake. Id. at 1201 (quotation marks
omitted). Plaintiffs’ “conjectural allegations of potential injuries are insufficient to
1 To the extent that Plaintiffs’ complaint also asserted a vote-dilution theory of
injury, they have expressly disclaimed that theory on appeal.
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plead a plausible real and immediate threat of election manipulation,” id. at 1204
(quotation marks omitted), as the district court correctly concluded in dismissing
their claims.
AFFIRMED.
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Plain English Summary
NOT FOR PUBLICATION FILED UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS DEC 12 2023 MOLLY C.
Key Points
01NOT FOR PUBLICATION FILED UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS DEC 12 2023 MOLLY C.
02COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT MARC THIELMAN; et al., No.
03MEMORANDUM* LAVONNE GRIFFIN-VALADE, in her official capacity as Oregon Secretary of State; et al., Defendants-Appellees.
04Beckerman, Magistrate Judge, Presiding Submitted December 6, 2023 ** Portland, Oregon Before: BERZON, NGUYEN, and MILLER, Circuit Judges.
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