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No. 10710506
United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
Boyd v. Bisignano
No. 10710506 · Decided October 24, 2025
No. 10710506·Ninth Circuit · 2025·
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Case Details
Court
United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
Decided
October 24, 2025
Citation
No. 10710506
Disposition
See opinion text.
Full Opinion
NOT FOR PUBLICATION FILED
UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS OCT 24 2025
MOLLY C. DWYER, CLERK
U.S. COURT OF APPEALS
FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
DONNA M. BOYD, No. 24-4608
D.C. No.
Plaintiff - Appellant, 3:23-cv-00482-CSD
v.
MEMORANDUM*
FRANK BISIGNANO, Commissioner of
Social Security,
Defendant - Appellee.
Appeal from the United States District Court
for the District of Nevada
Craig S. Denney, Magistrate Judge, Presiding
Submitted October 22, 2025**
San Francisco, California
Before: CLIFTON, OWENS, and BUMATAY, Circuit Judges.
Appellant Donna Boyd appeals the denial of disability benefits. We vacate
with instructions to the district court to remand for further agency proceedings.
In 2019, Boyd filed applications for disability benefits for, among other
*
This disposition is not appropriate for publication and is not precedent
except as provided by Ninth Circuit Rule 36-3.
**
The panel unanimously concludes this case is suitable for decision
without oral argument. See Fed. R. App. P. 34(a)(2).
things, rheumatoid arthritis, a torn left rotator cuff, and depression. The Social
Security Administration (SSA) denied the applications in 2020, and denied a request
for reconsideration in 2021.
In 2022, Boyd, her attorney, and a vocational expert (VE) appeared before an
SSA administrative law judge (ALJ). The ALJ asked the VE about work that Boyd
could do if limited to only “simple routine tasks.” The VE named three occupations
with Dictionary of Occupational Titles (DOT) Reasoning Level 2. DOT Reasoning
Level 2 requires the “commonsense understanding to carry out detailed but
uninvolved written or oral instructions.” DOT, App. C, 1991 WL 688702 (Jan. 1,
2016). On cross-examination, the VE testified that a worker with the limitations the
ALJ proposed would not be able to carry out “detailed written and oral instructions.”
In a post-hearing letter to the ALJ, Boyd objected to the three occupations
because their DOT Reasoning Levels conflicted with the VE’s testimony. Boyd
argued the three occupations must be excluded from any decision by the ALJ
because of the conflict. Boyd argued alternatively that, at minimum, then-binding
agency policy required the ALJ to examine and resolve such conflicts in her
disability determination. See Social Security Ruling (SSR) 00-4p, 2000 WL
1898704, at *2 (Dec. 4, 2000); 20 C.F.R. § 404.1566(d).
The ALJ ultimately found Boyd not disabled because she could perform work
existing in significant numbers in the national economy—specifically, the three
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objected-to occupations. The ALJ overruled Boyd’s objections by citing SSA
Emergency Message (EM) 21065, which states that the agency does not consider
DOT Reasoning Levels when making vocational findings. The ALJ did not examine
or resolve the conflict identified by Boyd.
On appeal, Boyd argues the ALJ failed to fulfill a duty to resolve an apparent
conflict between the VE’s cross-examination testimony and DOT Reasoning Level
2. For disability determinations made prior to January 6, 2025, such as Boyd’s, an
ALJ must resolve apparent conflicts between VE testimony and information in the
DOT. See Stiffler v. O’Malley, 102 F.4th 1102, 1108 (9th Cir. 2024); see also SSR
24-3p, 89 Fed. Reg. 97,158, 2024 WL 4988840, at *97159 (Dec. 6, 2024)
(prospectively rescinding SSR 00-4p to disability determinations made after January
6, 2025). Specifically, SSR 00-4p states: “before relying on VE or VS evidence [an
ALJ] . . . must identify and obtain a reasonable explanation for any conflicts between
occupational evidence provided by VEs or VSs and information in the Dictionary of
Occupational Titles (DOT).” SSR 00-4p.
An apparent conflict exists here. The VE testified on cross that a claimant
with the limitations given by the ALJ could not carry out “detailed written and oral
instructions.” But each of the three occupations upon which the ALJ based her ruling
required carrying out “detailed but uninvolved written or oral instructions.” DOT,
App. C, 1991 WL 688702 (Jan. 1, 2016).
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The government argues in response that there is no conflict because DOT
Reasoning Level 2 is consistent with the ALJ’s limitation of the claimant to “simple
and routine” tasks. But SSR 00-4p does not merely require congruence between
DOT Reasoning Levels and limitations given by an ALJ. It also requires that the
ALJ explain and resolve conflicts between information in the DOT and
“occupational evidence provided by VEs.” SSR 00-4p.
Because there was an apparent conflict and the ALJ did not resolve it, the SSA
should consider it in the first instance. See INS v. Ventura, 537 U.S. 12, 16 (2002)
(per curiam) (“[T]he proper course, except in rare circumstances, is to remand to the
agency for additional investigation or explanation.”). We vacate and remand to the
district court, so that it may remand to the SSA for further proceedings consistent
with this opinion. See Zavalin v. Colvin, 778 F.3d 842, 848 (9th Cir. 2015); Rounds
v. Comm’r of Soc. Sec. Admin., 807 F.3d 996, 1004 (9th Cir. 2015).
Each party shall bear its own costs on appeal.
VACATED AND REMANDED.
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Plain English Summary
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Key Points
01NOT FOR PUBLICATION FILED UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS OCT 24 2025 MOLLY C.
02MEMORANDUM* FRANK BISIGNANO, Commissioner of Social Security, Defendant - Appellee.
03Denney, Magistrate Judge, Presiding Submitted October 22, 2025** San Francisco, California Before: CLIFTON, OWENS, and BUMATAY, Circuit Judges.
04Appellant Donna Boyd appeals the denial of disability benefits.
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